Brother Melvin Mallett delivers a talk entitled Beware The Spirit Of Independence. (Because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what Jesus wants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zNpZKaKAkI
Oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!
BEARE OF INDEPENDANCE - Leaked Talk On My YouTube Channel
by pale.emperor 24 Replies latest watchtower bible
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pale.emperor
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Sliced
OMG I am only 1/2 way through and I could hurl. Twisted scripture is so apparent to me now.. ughhh
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steve2
Clever negative framing of thinking for yourself so that loyal JWs can only see the dangers of doing so. They ignore the fact that such thinking is viewed as positive when it's parishioners questioning church authority! Indeed, JWs congratulate churchgoers for doing so. Clearly when claims of truth are threadbare, thinking for yourself is dangerous to such claims.
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Crazyguy
People must be really leaving in droves.
Is this the same talk as at the RC or a new outline?
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smiddy
p.e.
I love that scene of a KH , rows and rows of empty seats ,if only ....sadly not in my lifetime.
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The Searcher
Some of the org's past "independent thinking" statements:
w58 8/1 p. 460 Dawns a New Era for the Irish - "To ask a sound religious question is a demonstration of lack of faith in God and the church, according to the clergy. As a result, the Irish people do very little independent thinking. They are victims of the clergy and fear; but freedom is in sight." (LOL)
w66 6/1 p. 324 Intellectual Freedom or Captivity to the Christ? - "Today, too, there are those who, by their independent thinking, question Christ’s ability to have and use on the earth a specially appointed governing body of imperfect humans, to whom he has entrusted all the Kingdom interests or "belongings" on earth."
w72 3/15 p. 170 par. 7 The Delight of Jehovah Will Succeed - "Man possesses a mind and a heart, not controlled automatically by instinct, but capable of independent thinking and reasoning, making plans and decisions, exercising a free will, building up strong desires and motivation. That is why you are capable of exercising the fine qualities of love and loyalty, of devotion and integrity. That is why you are also capable of understanding what God has revealed in his Word respecting his will and purpose, and how you can find achievement and contentment in bringing your own life into complete harmony therewith." (due to your thinking abilities - your independent thinking!)
w83 1/15 p. 22 par. 21 Exposing the Devil’s Subtle Designs - "How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God’s visible organization."
(yup, become a J.W. and your "very little" independent thinking will quickly become "zero" independent thinking!
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clarity
A chill just ran up my back.
Something that Jim Jones would spew out and we know where his followers ended up!
Sickening!
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pale.emperor
I got loads more to upload on my channel over the coming weeks. An elder passed me loads of recorded talks from Bethel, annual conventions etc to put on his iPod for him. I was warned explicitly NOT to copy or share them.
So I did the opposite😊
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TheWonderofYou
The sound is unendurable to listen. Hardly to believe how long an hour or 50 minutes can be. The unloving stress and emphasis is clearly to hear in each sentence. Why did he talk about numbers, hours, percents, getting up,... What a voluntary service. Sitting there I would have Sudor anywhere.
But it fits in the picture of an organsiation that has only one purpose. teaching and stressing. The uber-GB-teachers are teaching the lower "CO-teachers" and the CO-teachers again teach the "CONGO-bible-teachers" in stressing teaching-assemblies about what: how to teach each other and "OUTSIDERS" in LOOVE and HUMBLENESS professionally and fully devoted with the correct attitude and correct uniform dress.
"Everything for the party taught the socialist the little girls. You as girl and boy have to be a model for the party, the society".
Yes even the children have to listen how the teachers teach each other whom you could stress ..sweat.
Its alife-long school and no end is in sight.
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heathen
I had to put up with all their insanity myself , all I said was this belief that the generation of 1914 never passing away wasn't right ,,, suddenly I had a demon and was beat over the head the minute I walk in the door , said other things that the bible doesn't support that they teach as some sort of light backed by opinion, wasn't even a publisher .... Today they are changing the generation to a dual generation that sees the pangs of distress ... just and example of independent thinking that was more right than their supposed dogma