Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth 315 Replies latest social humour

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  DesirousOfChange

  I`m going to have to re-schedule my time to watch Cedars rebuttal as it is over 2 hours long ? is that right ?

  Personally, I'm usually of the opinion that almost everything/anything can be said in 10 minutes. This video, however, even though there is some (too much) repetition, is well worth the 2 hours of your time. You won't believe it without actually seeing it!
  

  I'm quite certain that if you could play just the actual WT video without interruption or commentary to a JW, every JW that saw it would say it is a fake video produced by apostates to belittle the organization.

  I had several who said that about the Sparlock video until the it was released on JWdotBorg and they could see for themselves that it was the "real mccoy". Suddenly their opinion modified about the message.
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  OrphanCrow

  I am looking forward to the org video being posted all by itself sans commentary. I would like to draw my own conclusions without someone else telling me what to think
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  slimboyfat

  There was some of the commentary I disagreed with. But I can’t remember what it was now. I think I fell asleep as some point.
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  sparrowdown

  What seemed bizarre to me especially with the Bro Breaux talk for horny young gentlemen was the amount of different scenarios put forth. One after the other of ridiculous what-ifs describing scenes worthy of a lame porn forum.

  I mean did the writers of the talk sit around in a writers room and think-tank the subject?

  How in the name of whatever is "holy" did they come up with them?

  Pure imagination? Records of JCs? Notes from confessions to elders?

  Let that sink in for a moment.

  Most normal people would'nt even think of this stuff until Bro Breaux plants it in their mind posing sexy hypothetical after sexy hypothetical. Are they actually trying to make them paranoid? OR horny?
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  snugglebunny

  Sleeping with a pillow between one's legs. Pregnant women, sciatica sufferers and those with back pain are recommended to do just that in order to attain a degree of comfort while trying to sleep.

  
  
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  sir82

  How in the name of whatever is "holy" did they come up with them?

  I would imagine from reports of COs, or maybe even stuff that happened in Bethel itself.

  The folks at Bethel have virtually no imagination. If they describe something that seems outlandish, it's a pretty good bet that it really happened somewhere. Maybe 20 or 40 or 50 years ago, but still real.
  
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  sparrowdown

  Even using "confessions" as market research I'm assuming the writers discuss the subject during the rough draft phase and then it goes through a brainstorming process and it has to be approved.

  That just seems bizarre to me considering how prudish they claim to be.

  And as I said in my earlier comment most people wouldn't even think of this stuff until this talk put's it in their head.

  The power of suggestion and all.
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  Listener

  Masturbation is discussed by the organisation as if it's a young persons problem. But it's hard to imagine that someone like Sanderson who is single and in his 50s doesn't have a battle with this all the time. If the organisation was sincere about this issue the surely it would have been more appropriate for Sanderson to give the talk and he could have related, from personal experience, how he deals with the matter.
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  DesirousOfChange

  he could have related, from personal experience, how he deals with the matter.

  "I hold it firmly, but not too tight, with my right hand. . . . ."
  
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  nicolaou

  Psalm 23.4 "you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me"

  It's in the bible people!