It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  • usualusername1
    usualusername1

    The most damning thing about this thread on Lloyds Evans is the subject line mention the name Lloyd Evans.

    Equally damning are the posts mentioning Lloyd Evans by name.

    If we keep on mentioning Lloyd Evans in each response by name it will eventually be number 1 in organic search results.

    I may post daily about Lloyd Evans just to get the truth about him out there.

    Ps Lloyd Evans you are a danger to women through your regular use of sex workers.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    He'll ask for blind trust and won't admit that they are in fact true comments.

    This is a horrible idea for him to do this interview. He always has to have the "last word" and believes he has this special kind of "mic drop" reasoning that people will just gobble up in a Road to Damascus moment.

    It's clear from the comments on this video that Andrew Gold is out for views and knows quite well this is a goldmine for his channel.

    How Lloyd doesn't understand this is baffling. He said he hired a PR agent. They would be on the phone now begging Andrew Gold not to air this. This will not get Patrons to come back to him and in fact probably convince a few more of the seriousness of what he has done. Not to mention this starts up all sorts of Twitter threads, rebuttal YT videos, and keeps this thread going strong.

    What a fool.

  • LouGoode
    LouGoode
    Hi Kim, this is Louise Goode (Katie Kitten) who used to do the original JW Podcast with Lloyd, Jaymes Payten and Stephanie (Apostate Chick). Jaymes suddenly left because he wanted to leave his wife and marry the woman at work he had been having an affair with, and there was some slender hope that his JW mum might attend the wedding if he managed to divest himself of all his activism. Neither I nor Jaymes wanted to bwquest the podcast to Lloyd, because we were both of the opinion it would become The Lloyd Show (it wasnt my podcast, I was just making my viewpoint known to Jaymes and he agreed with me). Jaymes wanted to leave it to me, but I felt I didnt have the time so we got Patricia Russell to take over the hosting editing and uploading.
    So then it was Patricia, Lloyd and I for a while, until one Friday night i made an opinion known that contradicted Lloyds (that Jonathan Saunders from the Charities Commission in the UK was a good guy. Lloys didnt rate him). As the disagreement escalated over the weekend Lloyd demanded of Patricia that I apologise or he wouldnt record Sundays podcast.
    We ended the podcast and took the wind out of his sails.
    Theres more, but its so long and boring its perhaps for another time.
    I wonder did you know of the Podcast? Did you know he took me down several times off YOutube when I went and did my own podcast? Did he ever mention these huge fallings out with other activists from the past?
  • LouGoode
    LouGoode

    Also Kim, I wanted to say Thank you VERY MUCH for following your morals and ethics and sharing what you found out about Lloyd. Many of us found that every time we disccussed something about him that we had experienced of found out we were shouted down loud and long. Many of us followed this pattern: Lloyd does something; we share it; we are shouted down; we share screenshots; we are told we are just jealous and haters; we give up and go quiet; 2 years pass; rinse and repeat.
    I wonder if you felt like I did when I worked with Lloyd, that I had an underlying sense that he was lovely as long as I agreed with him. I always knew that our collabotation would end on the day that I voiced an opinion that differed to his. As we are both left leaning liberals, it was easy for me to avoid that time for several years. But I absolutely knew everything would be over if I had the temerity to disagreee with him on some minor point.
    I think I had been drinking the night I posted that I thought Jonathan Saunders was a good guy. He was livid and bereated me and anyone else who thought the same (Lloyd had penned a 22 page letter to JSaunders demanding that he revoke WTS charitable status in the UK, which of course was nonsense. JS had no such authority to do so).

  • Simon
    Simon
    The most damning thing about this thread on Lloyds Evans is the subject line mention the name Lloyd Evans.

    Are you referring to the Lloyd Evans who also uses the pseudonym John Cedars? I added the John Cedars part to the title for clarification.

    In fact, I thought Lloyd Evans wasn't his proper name, isn't it James Lloyd Evans? (JLE)

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Great to ‘see’ you Louise. I used to love your SUFJ videos. I met you briefly at ExCel too. He’s got a lot to answer for. (I avoid using his name altogether, but appreciate others using the name.)

    I wonder if the channel that interviewed Lloyd would be willing to interview Kim Silvio to give the other side of the story. It would certainly be good for his viewing figures, with the added bonus of letting people know what actually happened.

  • NonCoinCollector
    NonCoinCollector

    The most damning thing about this thread on Lloyds Evans is the subject line mention the name Lloyd Evans.

    Equally damning are the posts mentioning Lloyd Evans by name.

    If we keep on mentioning Lloyd Evans in each response by name it will eventually be number 1 in organic search results.

    I may post daily about Lloyd Evans just to get the truth about him out there.

    Ps Lloyd Evans you are a danger to women through your regular use of sex workers.

    Does this work if I typed out his full name James Lloyd Evans? Or does this only work if I just type out Lloyd Evans? I want to be certain that the more I type out the name Lloyd Evans that it works to our advantage. Lloyd Evans deserves all of the publicity I can give him. Lloyd Evans needs exposure. No, not that kind of exposure, but rather Lloyd Evans simply needs to have news about him spread in all the inhabited Earth and then the end will come. So join me as we say his name loud and proud. Lloyd Evans... What's his name? Lloyd Evans... I can't hear you! Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans...

  • Simon
    Simon
    I wanted to say Thank you VERY MUCH for following your morals and ethics and sharing what you found out about Lloyd. Many of us found that every time we disccussed something about him that we had experienced of found out we were shouted down loud and long. Many of us followed this pattern: Lloyd does something; we share it; we are shouted down; we share screenshots; we are told we are just jealous and haters; we give up and go quiet; 2 years pass; rinse and repeat.

    Yes, doing the right thing isn't always easy and I'm sure you've taken a lot of heat for it from people who don't bother to find out the facts or properly appreciate the implications of what he has been doing.

    He's picked off and silenced other voices one by one and I believe it's deliberate because he wants to be THE voice of exJWs. Not because he really cares about anyone, but because it's a niche he can monetize. He's repeatedly taken over other people's work and projects then elbowed them out. It's his MO.

    We need to do better standing up to people who bully and silence others. When it's happening to you it's normal to be angry but that can feed into his narrative that someone should be ignored.

    Stop letting Lloyd silence people. We need more voices, not fewer. It's a stronger message to show more people have moved on from the WTS and are willing to talk about it. Allowing one voice to silence the others is just turning into WT-light.

    Lloyd doesn't want the WTS to go anywhere because it would destroy his income. He's as dependent on the WTS for his income now as much as when he was using people for his translation business.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    I wonder if the channel that interviewed Lloyd would be willing to interview Kim Silvio to give the other side of the story

    If Kim Silvio is interested in doing her own interview with Andrew Gold, I think this point should be pressed to him. In the comments already on the video link, Andrew has mentioned there were several facts he wasn't aware of before he made the video. Andrew had no idea Lloyd had asked his wife for an open relationship after being unfaithful in Texas, and after backing out of such an arrangement, directed his anger at Dijana and fled to Thailand.

    That's a very important contextual piece of information to leave out, especially when Lloyd starts into his sexual repression schtick and how much he does love his wife.

  • LouGoode
    LouGoode

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ey0GL2Ue5k

    Interesting on many levels. First that anyone who points out what he has factually done and admitted to is a troll.
    Second that Lloyd wont have any control over the comments on this video as its on someone elses Youtube channel.

    Ive just eaten as massive roast lamb dinner, I dont think ive got room for the amount of popcorn im going to need.

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