It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  sparrowdown

  The word grifter comes to mind.
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  Exactly. What does he need to do to get booted from that home? Telling your wife she is sexually incompatible and you need the company of hookers to satisfy you is enough to get you a black eye and a motel room for more than a few days. And not to her face, but to a livestream with 2000 viewers! One that he made $3000 in tips for describing his infidelities!

  Dijana, please tell me that sack of shit is out of the house and not coming back. Please tell me that if he comes round you are calling the police. It’s your parents home, so you hold the cards here. Your marriage is over. Done. You cannot come back from this. If this goes on the onus is on you to measure up to his standards of satisfying him, which at this point wouldn’t surprise me if it involved farm animals.

  End it. The longer this goes on the worse you will be for it. He’s a vengeful man and if you kick him out he’ll probably do a video about you. He’ll take the money with him which is what he really cares about anyway. Whatever. You can’t be associated with this anymore. ExJWs either. Don’t go on the forums or social media to explain yourself.

  Your new life starts now. You are still young. Don’t blow this opportunity.
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  Gorb

  Yes, AMIII and some others have a higher trust level to me, then this ego maniac Evens.

  G.
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  raymond frantz

  https://youtu.be/TrunsLEeWew
  
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  william hahn

  Hey Guys, i'm in communication with Kim Silvio and her post really was her Crisis of Conscience for her and not taken lightly by her.
  She is very grateful for the positive support she has seen across social media as LE has cast her as the villain.
  She said his video was blatant lies and she has never had a pally relationship with him. in fact Producer Bob has never spoken with him, so for him to infer they are somewhat co-conspirators in his perversions is an outright lie.

  On a positive note as the real victim's here ( Dijana Evans and kids ) have their social media controlled by LE and finances too an idea is gathering momentum to have a Global GoFundMe for her so she can kick his sorry arse out and gain the financial independence from him.
  
  She doesn't deserve to be put through his utter clusterfuck...
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  notsurewheretogo

  Jesus H Christ he is still playing the victim.

  Hello all

  
  

  I’m briefly breaking my social media hiatus to say a few things that some may need to hear:

  
  

  (1) I want to clarify that I don’t think my livestream on the 31st was sabotaged by anyone. I was extremely stressed when recording and when my mic inexplicably kept muting itself, which it has never done before, my mind raced to possible causes. I remembered that Producer Bob at that point had access to my Streamyard and verbalized this on air, but there’s simply no way she could have interfered without me seeing her in the studio interface. I want to apologize to her unreservedly for making that inference/accusation.

  
  

  (2) Since the livestream I have been informed that Producer Bob was very much involved behind the scenes in orchestrating/supporting the sharing of private information about my life despite her personal assurances to the contrary.

  
  

  (3) What little I’ve glimpsed of people weighing in on this issue falls very much into slippery slope fallacy territory. To reiterate: I am not a criminal, nor have I engaged in or facilitated any abusive behavior. Aside from the violation of privacy that impacts my whole family there is one injured party in all of this - my wife - and I know she objects to people treating her as a victim. Anyone wishing to accuse me of perpetrating crime should be going to the police before posting their claims on social media if they truly care about the crime itself or any potential victims. To hurl accusations without proof of any kind is slander. I am seeing accusations resurfacing that were leveled at me in 2017 as part of a cyber-bullying campaign orchestrated by the self-styled “Vast Apostate Army” or VAA. These accusations were forwarded to both the producers of Leah Remini’s Aftermath series and IICSA in an attempt to sabotage my involvement in both of those projects, but were given short shrift because minimal scrutiny revealed them to be utter fiction - the product of troubled minds who seek my destruction so fervently that they would like there to be a child who was molested, or “sexted”, by me. Let me be clear: I have many flaws, but exposing child sexual abuse while participating in it is not and has never been one of them. It feels like a violation that I even need to say that.

  
  

  (4) It is more than likely that Kim will try to share more personal information in the coming days and weeks. I won’t be commenting on each and every WhatsApp screen grab she tweets, if any. Suffice to say: I know who I am as a person and that I am not the narcissistic super villain that she is portraying. I know that despite my differences over the years with trusted colleagues and fellow activists, those I am working with now are the ones I have nothing but respect and admiration for. Whatever words of mine may surface on Kim’s social media, which will almost certainly be shorn of context, I know deep down that I am a good person; that I care passionately about the cause I have served for over 10 years, and that I care about and value all who have helped me in my work including my colleagues and patrons.

  
  

  (5) I would like to reiterate that as a professional activist I get to spend my wages as I please. My patrons know that I churn considerable money into my channel. It is due to their generous support that I have been able to hire a video editor, build a studio, travel to investigate stories and invest in the best equipment. I simply shouldn’t be asked to account for how I spend my personal funds. If that had ever been the case, I would never have used Patreon to begin with.

  
  

  (6) I am currently running a poll on the “community” tab of my YouTube channel to see whether my viewers would like me to keep my livestream from the 31st on the channel for the sake of transparency, or have it removed due to the invasive nature of its contents. At this time, the poll is running at 59% in favor of the video remaining. I will do my best to respect the wishes of the majority of my viewers and keep the video on my channel as long as possible, but I also reserve the right to override the results of the poll if I am asked to do so by Dijana who as with myself never asked for any of this attention on her private life.

  
  

  (7) I am now unapologetically blocking on social media anyone who sympathizes with Kim and her grossly judgmental, vindictive, surreptitious behavior. What Kim has done is the single biggest personal violation I have ever experienced, and it’s hard to believe anyone will ever be able to top it. I generally shy away from “you’re either for me or against me” rhetoric, and I want to be clear that I am not asking people to take sides. But if you use your social media platform to facilitate what is now being inflicted on me and my family, I don’t want to see any of what you have to say showing up in my feed in the future.

  
  

  (8 ) I am at a point where I am seriously considering stepping down from ex-JW activism altogether. I have been overwhelmed and deeply touched by the outpouring of support by the vast majority of my viewers and patrons. However, I am also seeing the ugly side of the ex-JW movement as never before and I genuinely shudder at this moment when I consider summoning the energy to devote more of myself to producing content that can be enjoyed by individuals who would treat me and those I love with such disdain. Quite apart from that, a significant element of my work involves collaboration with other ex-JWs, which in turn requires trust. Kim’s actions have decimated my trust in working with other ex-JWs and I am not sure I can ever collaborate again on the level I was doing before all this happened. Suffice to say, my life is in turmoil right now and I have no idea what is going to happen next. But whatever becomes of me I want to sincerely thank all those who have extended support and solidarity in this profoundly stressful period. Your kind words and unconditional love means more than you can know.

  
  

  Lloyd
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  LoveUniHateExams

  is he really so blinded by his own hubris he can’t see he is in very real danger of becoming a washed up meme over this?! - er, yes, he is.

  I've just watched the whole vid - I didn't want to but I felt I had to because I'd already made negative comments about him and he does deserve a chance to speak.

  And the video is just a self-serving exercise. Lloyd Evans feels he is a victim of the WTS and is pinning the blame on them for his choice to cheat on his wife repeatedly with prostitutes.

  He has form on not taking responsibility for his actions - just look at his behaviour over the whole AAWA thing.

  The real victims in all this are his wife and kids.

  Often when I hear of people's sleaze, I break into laughter. But the thought of his wife and kids is kinda stopping me here.

  
  
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  raymond frantz

  He grew up as a privileged jw with daddy King elder protecting him from any accusation, he never kept a decent job and always on benefits "pioneering" he knows nothing about accountability
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  pale.emperor

  Over the past few days my feelings about all this have changed. I'm seeing more and more of what people have been saying about him. As my first comment in this thread stated, I dont have an issue with sex work or sex workers (there's a whole growing debate about freedom of women to do this safely if they wish to etc but that's for another thread perhaps) and I dont care about his personal life. My issue now is his complete lack of acceptance, personal responsibility and - dare I say - empathy for his wife and kids.
  

  
  

  Hello all

  • I’m briefly breaking my social media hiatus to say a few things that some may need to hear:

    
    
    Not gonna copy the whole thing, obviously, but a few points that jump to me are:
    
    
    • Not once in that statement has he expressed remorse to his wife and kids.
      
    • Not once in that statement has he expressed remorse for misappropriation of funds.
    • He's running a poll about whether to keep his video up but says he can veto it anyway (whats the point?). Does it bring in more donations or what?
      
    
    
    Look, I dont judge anyone for sleeping with whoever and I make sure I dont weigh in on other people's relationship issues. Non of my business.However, this bit:
    
    

    (5) I would like to reiterate that as a professional activist I get to spend my wages as I please. My patrons know that I churn considerable money into my channel. It is due to their generous support that I have been able to hire a video editor, build a studio, travel to investigate stories and invest in the best equipment. I simply shouldn’t be asked to account for how I spend my personal funds. If that had ever been the case, I would never have used Patreon to begin with.

    
    
    The issue here is the money he's spending on prostitutes comes from his Patreon donors. Money which they were told was to make his videos and travel to do interviews and research. If it wasn't his sole income I could give him a bit of leeway. Guys working in garages, offices and bricklayers are free to spend their hard earned money how they please, sure. They get paid to lay bricks, fix cars and file papers. And yes, some will spend it on prozzys. Their wages, their choice. It would be very different if the brick layer took money from his employer to buy cement and spent in on a hooker though wouldn't it? In fact, it would get him sacked. And that, as far as I'm concerned is whats happened here.
    
    
    The only decent thing he can do about this is step down. Get off YouTube and Twitter. Dissappear. It's time for someone else to take the reign. And lets hope for a consortium under one YouTube channel rather than one person. Any spending of donations should be made public on a website.
    
    
    
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  LoveUniHateExams

  Not once in that statement has he expressed remorse to his wife and kids - yes, this is perhaps the biggest point.

  At one point he gets 'emotional' reading a statement and starts to break down ... but when he removes his hands form his eyes there are no tears running down his cheeks, his eyes aren't even moist.

  Total sociopath, zero feelings for other people.

  He's the victim and that's all there is to it