It’s at 473.
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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Vintage
The statisticians are teasing us?
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
It happened this way:
Lloyd started crowdfunding for a “much needed” Spanish translation of TRA. He wanted to do other languages but Spanish is the second most spoken language by JWs worldwide. He had Croatian (Dijana) and Romanian (Arthur Weber, his partner in crime who bootlegged COC with him) translations ready but for obvious reasons those aren’t languages you are making a tonne of money off of nor is there a huge need for. In fact Croatian and Romanian are probably two languages he could have skipped over and no one would have noticed.
He ended up with a few thousand dollars worth of donations for the Spanish translation.
Great! He had the money. Let’s get this moving, right?
No, he just inexplicably pocketed the money, took his family on holid— er “book tour” and then asked for qualified volunteers to do it for free. He specifically asked for translators with experience in English to Spanish. He wanted a full CV sent in with personal information and references he could check (Again with the personal information he solicits so he can retaliate if he feels you have slighted him). Keep that in mind because it does come up later.
He had a few volunteers, many in Mexico. Note that Spanish as spoken in Spain is different from that which is spoken in Mexico and Latin America. As someone who was a “Director” of his own Translation company, Lloyd should have known the folly of what was to follow. Yes, he was afraid of bootleggers so he refused to hand out digital copies of the book and only sent out individual chapters to volunteer translators all over the world. When a few asked for the full copy, he rudely cut them off and replied they could purchase a copy if they liked.
One such volunteer relayed information that he had went ahead and translated a chapter that was not assigned to him and made the mistake of telling Lloyd when asked that it was from a PDF. As PDF means a bootlegged digital copy, Lloyd doxxed him. All I remember from what I was told was he was in Hermosillo Mexico. But it was a real person who was doing this for free after Lloyd had pocketed the money funded for this purpose.
So if you want to know what he has in mind in taunting Kim to provide her legal credentials to him, this is simply how he operates. He asked for references for volunteer translators. He wanted Kim’s credentials. Why? Lloyd Evans is a piece of shit scumbag motherfucker who will harass you, your friends and colleagues if you cross him.
So does anyone want to return to the subject of whether or not we should lay off him due to concerns of him committing suicide?
That fucking prick can pound sand and masturbate into a pillow and you can tell him I said that. Want my credentials or references? Here they are.
Fuck You.
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Vintage
Here’s the table of contents from Evans’ second book. He says, “Protect your privacy online”. (Lol. He neglected to say, “...from me”.) Please notice the chapter heading, “Be realistic with your family”. He leaves out entirely any chapter recommending illicit extra-curricular activity for those leaving Watchtower.
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Jehalapeno
So does anyone want to return to the subject of whether or not we should lay off him due to concerns of him committing suicide?
That’s up to the individual. Some people have a line they don’t personally cross. Doesn’t mean they’re judging YOU.
If something bothers me, I’m gonna stop doing it. That’s my decision, not yours. And you shouldn’t judge others for having their own limits. Otherwise, you’re no better than Lloyd.
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Chinapomo
Everyone who isn't a compulsive liar, narcissist and wife cheater is literally better than him
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Simon
So does anyone want to return to the subject of whether or not we should lay off him due to concerns of him committing suicide?
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he did. I don't worry about the plight of people who abuse and bully others.
But I don't think there is any risk of that - I think he tends to drop the "mental health" and "suicide" words when he's been caught doing something wrong. It's like a murderer claiming an insanity defence - a long way from the truth but a convenient trick to try and remove responsibility for their actions.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
And you shouldn’t judge others for having their own limits. Otherwise, you’re no better than Lloyd
You certainly can advocate for his mental health here.
And I’m here to tell you it’s the stinkiest pile of bullshit imaginable if you fall for his “I’m close to suicide” schtick.
That was about as genuine as his FB post where he stated he was “seriously considering leaving ex JW activism” if the ‘bullying’ didn’t subside. Well we stepped it up to call out his BS and here he is months later writing two books.
Suicide? Stop believing what a known liar says.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if he did. I don't worry about the plight of people who abuse and bully others.
A friend of mine got involved in his circle after he bolted this forum. I warned her of the bullying nature of the man if you dare disagree but it was always “he does so much good! Those videos are excellent!”.
It didn’t take too long for him to publicly shame and humiliate her when she critically questioned him over the COC debacle. What was left of her his zombie army finished off.
She was an absolute wreck and we spoke into the wee hours of the morning trying to sort all this out. The main issue was that she couldn’t believe the sheer viciousness of someone who ostensibly was there to provide support and encouragement for exJWs. When it was explained that it was a business to him and the COC mess threatened that, it started making sense.
I wouldn’t say she was close to suicide but she had a history of self harming and was very vulnerable.
I don’t want anyone to commit suicide and Lloyd if you are reading (which you of course are), don’t jump off that bridge. There is hope. Maybe one of those Instagram models will reply with a kissy emoji and for one evening you’ll feel like a million euros. Or perhaps another trip to Thailand is in the works. McDonald’s might have a 2 for the price of 1 Big Mac special running for a full week in Zagreb.
But I am with Simon. If this creep offs himself it’s the culmination of a long history of bad behaviour that he cultivated, made excuses for and attacked critics of mercilessly. I’m not bending myself out of shape to prevent this. We’ve told him he needs help. What else is there to say?
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Toblerone5
When is Patrons number are down ,what does he do...Put a cute photo of him and one of is little girls,on twitter ...