It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  nicolaou

  LMSA: Got them, fifteen submissions. I'm on my way out to the day job right now but will get on these this evening along with some docs that 'someone else'* has kindly submitted.

  Diogenesister: I'll certainly take the unedited file of LE's livestream. 'Someone else'* was also kind enough to give me their livestream file but I know that quality and file size can vary. Yes, I'm sure LE would object (and if it's simply posted as is he may have a point) but having a good raw file to work from is ideal when making shorter clips with commentary.

  Many thanks to you all, there'll be something to see real soon.

  Keep them coming.

  *I'm keeping identities private unless I've been explicitly told that I can share the identity of anyone submitting content.
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  Debra

  If I can help in anyway with the Lloyd thing I would love to
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  LoveUniHateExams

  After The Mormons what's going to be next? - Lloyd meets Jihadists, lol.

  'Hello there!'
  

  
  

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  TonusOH

  Diogenesister: do you think he would attempt to have it removed if there were no commentary around it?

  I think he will take every action he can against anything that is uploaded. Most of what he tries will be useless aside from whatever value it has as bullying tactics. A copyright claim might work, though remember that copyright is meant to protect a work from being monetized by others or preventing the copyright owner from monetizing the work. So it's possible that he would not have a sufficient claim to get it taken down. But many websites will do so anyway, out of an overabundance of caution.

  And besides, the full video is a bit of a slog. Any of the commentary videos already out there have the salient points covered, and links to them would be more useful for information purposes. But I'd ask first, since linking them could make them targets of renewed harassment by Evans's more rabid followers.
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  GabeAthouse

  After The Mormons what's going to be next?
  

  https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lv8WHQwo4GY
  
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  Vintage

  I’ll make a wild guess that Evans won’t be recycling his “Lloyd Evans Meets the (fill in the blank)” video title format. Aside from our having exhausted the supply of really funny ones, Evans surely wouldn’t want to give us the satisfaction of winning the “best title” competition with the ultimate buzz-kill, “Lloyd Evans Meets His Maker”,... though I’d be interested to hear their exchanges when that happens.
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  JeffT

  I'm doing some surfing around in the Arizona corporation records, regarding AAWA. I can't get to the original incorporating documents, it looks like the state has archived the records. I was surprised to see that the corporation is still operating. I was under the impression they'd gone dark.

  There is little if any current activity on AAWA.co.

  I can't find any reference to Lloyd Evans on either the state's documents or the website. Not saying it isn't there, just saying that if it is there, its buried deep enough that I didn't see it in half an hour of poking around.
  
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  Diogenesister

  I can't find any reference to Lloyd Evans on either the state's documents or the website. Not saying it isn't there, just saying that if it is there, its buried deep enough that I didn't see it in half an hour of poking around.

  As to the website etc it's possible they removed all references to him after the fall out of his publicly revealing the identities of JW apostates, in order to increase AAWA membership numbers.

  Wasnt he John Cedars on the documents? (Edit: you're aware of this sorry)
  
  
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  Vintage

  I found the look-up page, but I can't find anything. Fizzywiglet gives "document number 04184930" below.

  https://501c3lookup.org/
  fizzywiglet on page 34 of Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page".
  (Over half-way down in a very long post)
  "...When others pointed out that Cedars uses his pseudonym on AAWA's official articles of incorporation paperwork, and an address which is not his own, but Richard Kelly's (scroll to the "articles of incorporation" box and click the button labeled "document number 04184930"...it's on page 2 of that document), that seemed to me like it couldn't possibly be legal."
  
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  Debra

  There is a 2014 video up on the AAWA website entitled happy apostates I don't particularly want to watch the video as his voice makes me sick but it's there