It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (page 67)

raymond frantz

So on Kim's interview today, she said that Djiana knows about screenshots, and letters. So was Djiana lying earlier on her patreon statement?

silentlamb_silent_no_more

So on Kim's interview today, she said that Djiana knows about screenshots

Possibly the same info we all have. Screenshots were made available to the public and I strongly urge you not to read them if you have a weak stomach. It has alleged CSA in it.

The letters? Do you mean from the alleged PIMO elder? I heard that on JW Updates channel. I think Kim is getting the information she has now, from where we got them from. Does not mean to say she knew about it.

Or she did and as legalese knows, you say nothing until after a trial and conviction.

silentlamb_silent_no_more

I am clearly tired. I've just re-read what you wrote ^^^ Ignore last comment.

Diogenesister

Just watched Cappy tans interview.

1.Dijana is saying the screenshots are false.

2. Kim talks about what's going on with Dijana and Lloyd. He's an emotionally abusive A-hole. Apparently she was in pieces. When Lloyd went online and said he needs a break because "things aren't working out for him" it was basically a tantrum because Dijana had said "no more. It's not ok for you to be visiting prostitutes all the time" so...... he went to Thailand to try and stop his sex worker addiction!!😳As a FU to Dijana. He said to Kim "she doesn't even know what a massage parlour is!".

Dijana was left alone with the kids in bits.....all the time he's tweeting what a beautiful view etc and how he needs a mental health break .....it was all a lie. Oh....and her therapist thinks he's in an emotionally controlling, abusive relationship.

Diogenesister

NCC I have never read the book Moby Dick, but Lloyd is Captain Ahab to Watchtower's white whale.

Holy moly great analogy!😆🙌🙌

NonCoinCollector

1.Dijana is saying the screenshots are false.

This was not all that surprising. It would have been a surprise if she had said if they are real. It is no telling if she is being honest or not since she is living with Lloyd. At the moment Dijana has more credibility than Lloyd, so there is that.

2. Kim talks about what's going on with Dijana and Lloyd. He's an emotionally abusive A-hole. Apparently she was in pieces. When Lloyd went online and said he needs a break because "things aren't working out for him" it was basically a tantrum because Dijana had said "no more. It's not ok for you to be visiting prostitutes all the time" so...... he went to Thailand to try and stop his sex worker addiction!!😳As a FU to Dijana. He said to Kim "she doesn't even know what a massage parlour is!".
Dijana was left alone with the kids in bits.....all the time he's tweeting what a beautiful view etc and how he needs a mental health break .....it was all a lie. Oh....and her therapist thinks he's in an emotionally controlling, abusive relationship.

This was not a new revelation either. The one question on my mind is still, why has Dijana let Lloyd live with her and her parents? Behavior like this would not be okay in my home.

Simon

she said that Djiana knows about screenshots, and letters

The letters? Do you mean from the alleged PIMO elder?

I don't know anymore if everyone is even talking about the same things!

That was an interesting discussion. A few tidbits that were new.

Personally, the whole exJW thing ... the reason there aren't better examples of people who leave is that the better examples move on. You don't hear about "the teacher" who is an exJW because they are not constantly waiving a flag saying "look at me, I am an exJW who had a mildly conservative quirky religious upbringing but survived".

The problem is that all the oxygen in the room is being consumed by the people who want to supply the outrage / anger market, the people who want to protest / shout / harass yada yada, not the ones setting the example of how to move on. The media that get's eyeballs is the outrage-porn about what the WTS did wrong last week, and how the GB may be corrupt because someone once went to a liquor store*.

If people want to help others to leave, the main focus should be on setting a good example of how to do it and how to do it with your family intact. And then providing information and community to help, but that community should only ever be a stepping stone, a temporary place to ask questions, get advice, work through the emotional stages ... and then become an ex-exJW.

And yes, I know there is some irony, because after all these years ... here I am! But I'm only here with my popcorn for the soap opera, and because someone needs to be the janitor.

* incidentally, and off topic, I always thought this makes him look pretty humble and down to earth. I mean, he's off doing his own shopping, not just sending some skivvy to do it for him. Maybe not what you'd expect of a higher-up in any organization.

Diogenesister

incidentally, and off topic, I always thought this makes him look pretty humble and down to earth. I mean, he's off doing his own shopping, not just sending some skivvy to do it for him. Maybe not what you'd expect of a higher-up in any organization.

I actually thought the same. And he was quite happy to give some friendly advice to the chap in the store on what's a good, reasonably priced whiskey* (Jameson...I approve).

*Without preaching😆

TonusOH

If Lloyd goes after anybody, I look forward to the lawyer's discovery.

I'm not sure he'd have much to worry about, there. Discovery is not a fishing expedition. If he sued someone for defaming him, and their strategy was to use the discovery phase to get his phone/email/etc records, I think they'd be in for a very rude surprise, unless they had very specific requests for very specific records.

There aren't many people he could successfully sue for defamation, and I doubt he'd gain enough from legal action to make it worth the expense/time/effort. The one person that might have made sense to sue was Kim Silvio, but he blew that up by making a video where he corroborated her claims. And if he decided to do so anyway, she could probably put Evans' wife (among others) on the witness list. It would be an ugly mess.

I think he's making statements about legal action in the hopes of getting people to stop talking about his situation, both the parts that are known for sure and the parts that are speculation or not corroborated (yet?). He might be creating a version of the Streisand Effect, where your efforts to stop people from talking about something end up drawing even more attention to it.

Diogenesister

because someone needs to be the janitor.

I don't know why, but you're giving me Hong Kong Fooey vibes☺️

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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