It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Toblerone5
    Toblerone5
    I really hope he goes fully woketard mode.

    Right now , all he talks about on twitter is the Star trek series. I notice that he like to do that , time to time ,escape in fantasy made belief T.V .shows, or he needs a break ? so he goes on holidays...Anyway when he comes back from la la land. I think he will have a rude awakening! I wonder if he knows about the Jan patreon leak by now , or the leak about his finance ? either way

    chinapomo ,I think your wish is about to come true...

    but please hope he don't have is tantrum on Patreon... Youtube Youtube ! or one of those long Hissy fit letter ,he will post than delete 5 minute later...but oops ,to late somebody will have save it and post it on this thread for ever !

  • Toblerone5
    Toblerone5

    Talking about him liking to escape reality , there is another video of him singing on the open mic Zagreb instagram... https://www.instagram.com/p/CqNSVPnDo45/

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    It is unfortunately difficult to reconcile the differences between financial documents prepared for taxing authorities, and those prepared according to Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP). GAAP exists to provide transparency to the financial performance of different entities. GAAP provides a common set of rules for all financial transactions. In the US the SEC provides this information so that investors can make informed decisions about investments. This is real accounting, tax accounting plays by whatever rules the politicians make up.

    We're in a tough spot here because we're dealing with at least two tax systems and by my count four sets of money (US, UK, Croatia, and Euro). As a retired financial professional it is my opinion that Lloyd (and anyone else accepting donations from the public) owes his investors financial transparency. This is a matter of ethical integrity, not law. This would mean a full accounting for all income and expense, backed up by bank statements.

    Frankly, I think Patreon should be demanding this of everyone they do business with. I think the donors should be allowed to see this information before sending anyone a nickel. If I was donating money I would ask this of the company, if receiving funds I'd provide it. I know Evans will say this is his private business, but that is not true as long as he's asking the public for money, it becomes their business. Go to a bank and get a loan to buy a house, then see how much information you need to supply. Same thing, when you ask people for money, they get to demand answers to their questions.

    None of what I've said here should be construed as an accusation, it's a request to clear the air by being transparent.

    Edited to add: a question came up with regard to depreciation, was the number provided high? Absent full financials, that question can't be answered. Lets say that depreciation is $12000. Is that a $36000 car depreciated over three years, or a three hundred sixty thousand dollar house deprecated over thirty years? You can't tell from just the expense number.

  • KIMSILVIO
    KIMSILVIO
    None of what I've said here should be construed as an accusation, it's a request to clear the air by being transparent.

    I really appreciate your opinion on this matter, especially as this relates to your professional area of expertise and experience. 👍

  • Vintage
    Vintage

    I lived through the era before internet,... back when tele-evangelists were the approximate equivalent of youtube stars. They had their ways of soliciting and collecting funds. Of course, JW's never sent them a dime. But still, when one (or several) of them became famously exposed as hopeless adulterers, even their most ardent admirers expected... and got... a tearful, gut wrenching apology from the "fallen Christian". And then, for a few weeks or months there were parishioners "forgiving" the humiliated "pastor". Usually the wronged wife would appear, sing a song, cry, and accept her husband's repentence. If he didn't have to go to jail for some other fraud he had committed, then he was free to continue fleecing the flock, as though nothing had happened. JW's didn't give it much thought or much mention, as we believed ourselves to be "above" all that corruption.

    LE brings the whole theatrical "show" closer to home. We thought that even an "EX" jw would have more scruples left over than what we have seen from him.

  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972
    Right now , all he talks about on twitter is the Star trek series.

    He must really hate Picard season 3 then. It's not woke at all. 😂

  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972
    can you imagine what kind of elder he would have become if he had the chance ?

    He would have made a model elder. Believe me, there are many elders like Lloyd. One such elder I had experience with is the reason I am posting on this forum today. His behavior made me question the watchtower, along with a pioneer sister too. It is also one of the reasons (and personal experience with Lloyd) why I speak out against Lloyd. I have had personal experience with characters like Lloyd. They are dark evil individuals who like to suck the lifeforce out of others.

  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972
    None of what I've said here should be construed as an accusation, it's a request to clear the air by being transparent.

    You are a long-time forum member and a balanced one at that. I don't believe anyone should take your balanced view to mean anything other than what is stated. Sometimes I could learn a few lessons from people like yourself. 😊

  • lloydevansparody
    lloydevansparody
    Lets say that depreciation is $12000. Is that a $36000 car depreciated over three years, or a three hundred sixty thousand dollar house deprecated over thirty years? You can't tell from just the expense number.

    I thought the same thing. Thank you for your professional opinion

  • Vintage
    Vintage

    Without straining my delicate brain too much,... would you say that the self-proclaimed professional activist's haul is down by about half?

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