by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals
That's Odd how some people won't believe the letter is real until they have real proof...
And yet , when L.E. say he as now 706 subscribers , those same people take that for granted and they don't need proof of that... isn't that a little bit ,oh I don't know Gullible...
where is the logic in that ?
not let Javi stay in my hotel room...
For people that don't believe Kim Silvio , which I do , I guess you could always ask M.Ortiz if that story is true. Come on pretty much just him and L.E. would know about that... Don't think he would confirm that to anybody though...anyway it was just an idea i had...
For people that don't believe Kim Silvio , which I do , I guess you could always ask M.Ortiz if that story is true.
Whoa boy, let’s all cool it!
Placing the onus (pressure) on Kim only serves the interest of one person i.e. LE
Obviously the revealing of the letter he wrote to his wife on the 16th December, 2021 has upset Lloyd Evans a great deal. So much so that it appears he has come onto this thread, once again and this time to suggest that his letter may in fact, be fake.
I do believe it's him posting as "Whateveryousay" which makes it so funny that he would post knowing he wrote it and suggesting to others that he might not have written it. It doesn't get more amusing.
If, by some very small chance, it happens to be one of his lovers or supporters, he should seriously consider employing them as his defence agent or script writer.
The question is, if someone is willing to come on here to defend his unscrupulous and disgusting behaviour why would they be so shy as to not reveal their identity? Also, the poster makes not one claim that Lloyd has reassured him that the letter is fake.
Kim would probably know more about this on the legal side but is it possible that Lloyd can't claim it's fake because he could be sued for making such a claim (by his wife or those mentioned in the letter) or even by those who received it directly from Lloyd's wife who have confirmed is legitimacy?
His posts have taken away further discussions and a breakdown of his letter but we have plenty of unfilled pages and plenty of time to discuss it more in depth.
Kim would probably know more about this on the legal side but is it possible that Lloyd can't claim it's fake because he could be sued for making such a claim (by his wife or those mentioned in the letter) or even by those who received it directly from Lloyd's wife who have confirmed is legitimacy?
If he ever actually steps into a court to make any actual claims of any substance (sorry Lloyd, but talking shit on Youtube may convince your feeble minded patreons but reality is a little more demanding) then anything he, or one of his minions, has posted here pretending not to be him will be made available should anyone need it.
Courts don't take too kindly to people lying, claiming something to be false when it isn't, claiming to be someone else when it's them. They have a habit of treating EVERYTHING they subsequently say to be the lying bullshit it really is. They have zero credibility as a reliable witness and are treated accordingly.
Hear that Lloyd? It's what was left of your credibility going down the drain.
(I'm joking of course, you didn't really have any left, I just said that for comic effect)
But as if any of that's ever going to really happen. The whole "litigation" for "the defamation" is just laughable. We're nearly at 18 months and it's all gone very, very quiet. No one served. Nothing actually happening. All theatrics and fake claims by Mr P. T. Barnum looking for more suckers to fleece.
At least anyone who donates to him based on his false statements will have cause to claim a refund.
For people that don't believe Kim Silvio , which I do , I guess you could always ask M.Ortiz if that story is true.
Ortiz has commented on the leaked letter.
If he had thought this was fake, he most certainly wouldn’t have made this comment. And his name was directly invoked by the story of his cancelled flight and how he stayed with Lloyd in the hotel. Had that not been true, he would have corrected that and questioned the legitimacy of the letter.
Javier then made a much liked tweet subtly directed at Lloyd saying that no one wakes anyone up. The JW wakes themselves up by reading the “apostate” material to begin with.
So…. Yep, the email is genuine. Confirmed by someone who also received it from Dijana and indirectly by another party who was mentioned in it.
So amusing that Jabba the Hutt is lurking here. Now we know what Dijana was talking about when she mentioned he’s always “scrolling”. Probably puts on a movie when the girls are at his place, spreads out soda and bags of crisps on the table and just loses it when reading what’s said about him here. Taking screengrab after screengrab of evidence of “defamation” and placing into a JWN folder for his next round of bullshit lawsuits. And why not? He’s not paying for it. His donors are. As they just did for the hooker who collected her “wages” and left Lloyd’s flat hours ago.
Probably puts on a movie when the girls are at his place, spreads out soda and bags of crisps on the table and just loses it when reading what’s said about him here. Taking screengrab after screengrab of evidence of “defamation” and placing into a JWN folder for his next round of bullshit lawsuits.
Ha, the doom-scrolling loser - Lloyds ass is ours, the more we can waste of his life the better!
But everyone needs to wear gloves and get a shot of penicillin, just in case. Don't touch that ass, it's probably riddled with lady-boi-aids or whatever the Thai hooker tourists are doing these days.
Well, that's all my "I'm street wise" imitation talk done.
Lloyd can legally claim all day it's fake. His only legal trouble would be if he called out Kim by name and claimed she was intentionally putting out something fake. His problem is that he knows people have receipts. So if he claims it's fake then he is calling Djiana a liar and accusing her of faking it. I doubt he will cross that Rubicon especially now since he's raised funds by propping her up.
His only hope as Simon said is to come on here (assuming it is indeed him) and spreading doubt in hopes someone bites. Then forgets to even use a VPN LOL. It's all such a Lloyd thing to do.
I don't think there would be legal repercussions if he insisted the letter was fake. Aside from defamation being tricky to prove (just ask Evans!), there is also the issue of damages and whether it's worth it to pursue legal action when you stand to gain little or nothing (just ask Evans!). The issue, for him, is that claiming it is fake could blow up in his face, so he will wait and see if it goes away. If not, he might claim it's fake, knowing that it becomes another potential bomb that can go off at any time. His other options are:
1. Admit it's real and that it isn't anyone's business but his and his wife's. I think that this is true! But also irrelevant. Remember, he's not trying to convince us of anything. He's trying to convince potential (and current) supporters that he deserves their money. Gruffly dismissing them and asking that they mind their own business might mean that they decide to spend their money somewhere else.
2. Admit it's real and try to justify what he wrote. I can imagine a scenario where he tries this, because he's so certain that he's the smartest man in the room. I hope he does go this route. The entertainment value would be immeasurable. So would the self-inflicted damage.
Other than that, he can continue to pretend it doesn't exist and try to dismiss it as part of the "defamation campaign" against him. We'll have to see how that works out.
