Liberal vs. Democrat in the U.S.A.

by OnTheWayOut 42 Replies latest jw friends

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  Apostate Anonymous

  If you want to speculate on the threat of the dreaded Socialists \ Communists running for office, at least consider some of the open white nationalists that are running for office recently such as Patrick Little and Joey Gibson. Oh and lets not forget Authur Jones. Yeah that guy who used to head the American Nazi Party who ran unopposed in the GOP Primary for Illinois.

  Also, please don't lie to yourself and say that white nationalists are not violent people. I can provide ample evidence of white nationalists actually killing people. Multiple people in a few different countries. In terms of active threats to Americans, white nationalists top every list. They have killed more people than muslim extremists and leftists.
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  redvip2000

  FDR put the Japanese into camps for security. It was a good move because of how beholding to the mother land they were. It is like keeping people quarantined if they were exposed to virus.

  You voted for Trump didn't ya?
  
  
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  Apostate Anonymous

  Yeah LUHE, but I don't actually see any 'democrats' actually calling for violent revolution, so why the need to throw socialist / communist label around so much? I'm trying to understand. To me, it's no different than the right wing's critique of always being called nazis when it isn't warranted.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  please don't lie to yourself and say that white nationalists are not violent people. I can provide ample evidence of white nationalists actually killing people - of course some white nationalists are violent people.

  Yes, white nationalists have killed people. This is bad, no doubt about that.

  Wanna guess which ideology has killed the most people - white nationalism or socialism?

  The answer is socialism. It's not even close. In terms of numbers killed, socialism/Marxism is a country mile ahead of white nationalists/neo-nazis.

  This, coupled with the fact that the hard left dominates all our institutions, means that the current threat is much higher from the hard left.

  Both are bad and should be fought against.

  In terms of active threats to Americans, white nationalists top every list. They have killed more people than muslim extremists and leftists - now compare white nationalists vs Islamic terrorists and leftists worldwide.

  Here are a few bonus questions for your consideration:

  Have white nationalists ever stoned an adulteress to death?

  Have white nationalists ever thrown gay men from tall buildings?

  Have white nationalists ever beheaded aid workers?

  Have white nationalists ever blown themselves up in a public place?

  Have white nationalists ever believed it's ok to marry & fuck nine year old girls?

  And one more thing ...

  Put the following dictators in order, according to how many deaths they're responsible for, starting from the most deaths:

  Adolf Hitler

  Mao Ze Dong

  Joseph Stalin.
  
  
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  LoveUniHateExams

  Yeah LUHE, but I don't actually see any 'democrats' actually calling for violent revolution - try harder.

  Radical feminists regularly and openly say they want to 'smash the Patriarchy.' This is incitement to violence.

  Those people are neo-Marzists, usually vote Democrat and, as far as I can make out, are openly calling for violent revolution.

  In the main, the left cheers on and supports these people.

  It's disgusting and should stop.
  

  You're welcome.

  
  
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  MeanMrMustard

  Define “white nationalist”.

  A nationalist is someone who wishes political independence for his/her country - being concerned with his/her country as a citizen, as opposed to other countries in which the person is NOT a citizen.

  A white nationalist, hopefully, is not much different than a black nationalist; just different skin color.

  But I have a sneaking suspicion it’s not like that, right? These are the word games.
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  Apostate Anonymous

  When I mentioned muslim extremists, I was referring to within the US. There is no doubt that muslim extremism is an issue. I am not doubting that for one second. The Islamic State is an islamic fascist group that has committed some of the most terrible acts imaginable. It's too bad that the US contributed to their rise.

  If a feminist calling for the patriarchy to be smashed is violent incitement, then what would you call Trumps order to police to be more violent with suspects during arrests?
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  Apostate Anonymous

  Mustard,

  White Nationalism puts a hyper focus on the inferiority of those who are not white. They emphasize the need for a white ethno-state because of said inferiority. There is this weird obsession with "white genocide' in the mind of the white nationalist. Oh and they love to talk about how much jews ruin everything lol. I can provide more details if needed

  Black Nationalism puts a focus on returning to the mother land (Africa) in order to escape white supremacy. Their main goal is not "revenge" on white folks. That's an age old myth used to justify harsh repression of them
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  MeanMrMustard

  @Apostate Anonymous:

  Right, but you understand my irritation?

  Goes something like this:

  “Trump is a nationalist, and you support him?”

  “Yes, he is, and I voted for him.”

  “You fascist, racist bastard!”

  “Wait, what? Nationalism is bad?”

  “Yeah... hello, Nazis!! You said it, Trump is a nationalist, just like all the racists are.”

  *face palm*
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  Apostate Anonymous

  I understand the irritation. I'm not a fan of liberals and progressives overuse of the term nazi and / or fascists. It muddies the water and takes away from genuine critiques of actual self described nazis and fascists.