I found a pamphlet in one of my old bound Vol. a 1969 Awake, that had a pamphlet from a senator who gave a speech on the Hoxsey cure. I know of several JWs who went to Mexico and got this treatment. Most were old school who did not believe in modern medicine due to the Joe Rutherford crap on medicine. Anyone have any experience with this?
I found an old pamphlet in one of my JW books. About the Hoxsey cure
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JimmyYoung
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DesirousOfChange
I also know of several who traveled to Tijuana for this "treatment" and I'm anxious to hear the stories of others. If you feel posting will identify you, please PM me.
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Sea Breeze
I went with my friend there for treatment. He died anyway.
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under the radar
I had a work acquaintance who was otherwise very intelligent. But he was also way deep into alternative medicine. His mom had cancer and finally gave up on chemo. So he and his wife got some alternative medicine "doc" to see her and he prescribed, among other things, coffee enemas. My friend was all excited when those blackened, dead cancer cells were just "pouring out of her." Hmmm...
When she died a short time later, all they said was they had started her treatments too late.
When a person, no matter how well educated, decides they believe something, no amount of scientific evidence or other proof will convince them otherwise. Just like the way religious superstitions get ahold of people who should know better.
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road to nowhere
I know a few who never got to Mexico before dying.
There are some alternatives that help some conditions. Note SOME. And the placebo affect does work
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JimmyYoung
I grew up a 4th gen JW. The older ones born in the 30s or earlier who were affiliated with the cult did not like modern medicine. This may have gone away some due to them dying off. But I remember an old Brother Carl Kunde long since dead, who would say that modern medicine was full of greedy people and would go once a month to a quack Dr Benitt who was a chiropractor for an "adjustment. He said that all disease started in the bones and when his kids got their adjustment they would not be allowed to do anything for a day to let the adjustment "set in". My wife almost died because her family would not take her to get antibiotics when she had Rheumatic fever and took her to a Homeopathy Dr. I did not know it then but later found out that Homeopathy is such a load of bull crap. Its nothing but sugar pills with some kinds of herbs so diluted that its like putting a drop into an Olympic pool and then taking a drop of that for a cure. But cult members fell for this because of all the anti medical crap the cult was putting out in the thirty's and forties.
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WTWizard
These alternative treatments need to be researched and developed, since our bumbling system of giving drugs while draining patients of all their money does a lousy job in curing patients. Ideally, people with these diseases that are more afraid of the treatments or that simply do not want all their money going to fund our mass enslavement should have these treatments available as an option. Or, in conjunction with more mainstream treatments. This would leave mainstream treatments open for those who want them, but in competition with other alternatives. While many of these alternatives would be quacks and scams, the good ones would be publicized and attract business.
But, putting all your hopes in something that is based on a death cult is just as dangerous as putting all your hope in drugs and surgery (though it may not be as damaging financially, unless the cult takes all the money as well). There is nothing special about water that some filthy angel has blessed (and the foul energy from those angels can be as bad as the drugs you get in the hospital). Besides, patients are usually not allowed to do outside research on their conditions and the treatments (and I advise that everyone with a medical condition or at risk of developing one should do such research before committing to anything).
And, if they want, they can try these novel treatments. Especially with diseases where the treatments offer barely anything better than nothing, at great expense and hardship to the victim. These machines should be available for those who would rather take the chance of its not working instead of the harsh drugs (or in addition to the drugs, to make them work better). This goes for supplements--they might not work, but they might improve the outcome or make the drugs work better or safer.
And who knows, without the shackles of the angels and their filthy medical and religious programs, a few of those patients that use alternative treatments could lead to a breakthrough that would actually cure diseases with a minimum of fuss and risk. In that case, even if some must die because the doctors are experimenting, their deaths would lead to other lives being saved. And, it would be their option--instead of drugs that barely improve their outcome for no gain, they opted for a treatment that did not work so doctors could learn from their mistakes. Which is more than can be said about cults--those cult "treatments" never result in someone learning from failure, and never lead to cures.
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dubstepped
Wait, so the JWs have a history steeped in quackery then? I always wondered why people in my congregation went to flea market docs, literally buying bullshit from the flea market because everyone knows if you drop $150 on both rental you're a healer for sure. Iridology and reflexology, getting toxins out of your feet, oil pulling, etc. There was a sister in Indiana with a magic machine. A sister in Tennessee with magic beans of some sort, pills in supplement form. Funny how the evil medical establishment just wants your money but Bob and Mary sell you things proven to do nothing yet you willingly reach in your pockets for cash while praising them.
A sister at our KH with 2 kids died young. Rather than getting real medical help for the cancer she had she invested in all the quackery. They had a part on a meeting asking for money later to send her to New York to specialists. She finally went and the actual doctors said there was nothing they could do. The tumors were allowed to grow for too long and she was too compromised.
My mom was playing cards with a little old sister who pulled out a little box and shocked herself. It was a box of Radio Shock parts and batteries with leads coming out. She was shocking her colon cancer away. She knew it was working because the black color of her stool was the toxins leaving her body. Makes you want to scream.
So many fairy tales were peddled in the congregations. Everyone wants to feel special, like they have some secret knowledge of truth, whether spiritually or medically, and people wasted precious resources on each.
There's a great podcast that just wrapped their second season called "The Dream". Season 1 was about MLMs. Season 2 was about "wellness" and alternative medicine of sorts. Fascinating stuff.
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JimmyYoung
I know so many who would go to the BS chiropractor. This quackery does not only mean cracking bones it gets into Kinesiology which is crazy ass BS. Acupuncture which I always found funny because its a Chinese spiritual load of crap. I went with several JWs in the 70s to a chiropractor who would prescribe drinking a quart of salt water to crap your guts out and do enemas. It was supposed to detoxify.