I think people who campaign for animal rights deserve our support - but their aim isn't to improve livestock conditions, it's to stop meat being produced.
BTW, I'm all for improving livestock conditions ... if that's the only aim.
The Animal Sentience Bill - what next?
by LoveUniHateExams 24 Replies latest social current
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LoveUniHateExams
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LoveUniHateExams
All words. I don't believe they are serious about anything unless and until they go after Halal meat production - yes, you have a point.
I was talking with a Vegan on a Vegan post on FaceBook. I asked him if Inuit people should stop eating meat and wearing polar bear fur. He couldn't answer.
So, just to twist the knife, I suggested an idea: Inuit people should jettison their culture, stop eating meat and wearing animal fur, convert to Veganism, migrate en masse to Vancouver, Toronto, etc., and live like white people, lol.
The point is that the Vegan activist lobby is basically a bunch of white, middle class people who try to shame other white people. The minute you raise other people and cultures, they clam up tighter than a duck's arsehole, lol.
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mickbobcat
There are many things I think should be banned. Like Fox hunting, which I believe England finally got rid of. Sport hunting I don't believe in. If you don't eat it don't kill it. Things like Foie Gras where a goose is kept in a very small cage force fed to make them fat and then the liver is taken out and eaten the fatty organ. Its disgusting, abusive and inhumane. Those who don't care about animals don't care about humans.
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DATA-DOG
I just watched 15 Minutes Of Shame. I expected an Ultra Woke piece of shit show but it was pretty informative on human behavior and social media. There are lots of folks making comments about subjects that they’ve done very little research on. They are just blasting their emotions, and there are real consequences.
Then there are individuals and groups who purposely send out misinformation to further their own agenda.
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BluesBrother
I am not a vegan or an extreme animal rights activist , but this bill is. right. Animals and " even lobsters " DO have feelings. Science is discovering more and more about the complexity of their lives.
We need to respect the natural world and the creatures with which we share this planet. If we take their life we must do so humanely.
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LoveUniHateExams
If we take their life we must do so humanely - yes, I agree with you.
But the Vegans don't, that was kinda my point.
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DATA-DOG
If we train all the animals to be vegan we can cut down on carbon emissions.
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pistolpete
Vegans are going to use this Bill to improve livestock welfare.
Maybe there should be a bill to improve Human welfare.
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PaddyTheBaddy
LoveUniHateExams5 days ago
I think people who campaign for animal rights deserve our support - but their aim isn't to improve livestock conditions, it's to stop meat being produced.
BTW, I'm all for improving livestock conditions ... if that's the only aim.The animal sentience bill legally recognises that animals feel pain and pleasure, happiness and misery. More than 45 different animal rights and environmental groups campaigned for the bill, including the Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Vegans obviously support the bill, but it's a million miles away from protecting animals against us eating them. It is a step forward in helping to reduce their suffering before we eat them. For example killing the lobster before boiling it.
Matt Ridley, a popular science writer has probably gotten it right when he said “The sentient animals that concern me in relation to the Bill are the living, sensing, voluntarily moving creatures called bureaucrats. The Bill does little or nothing to change the way we treat animals, but it does create a wonderful feeding opportunity for Homo bureaucratius to do what it is best at: to build a nest and raise a lot of workers.”
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PaddyTheBaddy
pistolpete
Maybe there should be a bill to improve Human welfare.There is one, Its called Biden's social welfare bill. It's not very popular either.
