An apostate's Public Talk at KH (video!), harrassing JWs, ARC update, new light on footnotes and Q&A time

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  • darkspilver
    darkspilver

    It's Tuesday Morning 16 May 2017!.....

    Australia: Royal commission has led to more than 100 child abuse prosecutions

    The Guardian, 15 May 2017

    Royal commission has led to more than 100 child abuse prosecutions, says head

    The head of the royal commission into child sexual abuse, Justice Peter McClellan, has referred 2,025 incidents of abuse to authorities since 2013, provoking 127 prosecutions to date.

    The commissioners have held more than 6,700 private sessions for survivors of institutional abuse.

    To date, the commission has analysed the information from 6,302 of those private sessions, and McClellan will for the first time reveal the breakdown of institutions in which those survivors were abused.

    Nine per cent reported abuse in an Anglican institution; 4% in a Salvation Army institution; 3% in an other Protestant institution; 2% in a Presbyterian and Reformed churches institution; 1.3% in a Uniting Church institution; 1% in a Jehovah’s Witness institution; 0.6% in a Baptist church; 0.5% in a Pentecostal churches’ institution; 0.4% in a Churches of Christ institution, 0.4% in a Seventh Day Adventist institution, and 0.3% in a Lutheran church institution.

    READ MORE: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6becl3/arc_commissioner_justice_mcclelland_warns/

    UK: Man faces trial accused of harassing JWs

    The Daily Express, 15 May 2017

    Man faces trial accused of harassing Jehovah's Witnesses

    A 66-year-old Gloucester man is to stand trial in July for alleged religious harassment of two Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Angelo Famiglietti, of Bloomfield Terrace, Gloucester is accused of religiously aggravated behaviour and using threatening words and behaviour towards the Jehovah's Witnesses because of their faith on May 3 and May 9.

    He denies both charges.

    Prosecuting Jane Cooper told Cheltenham Magistrates Court that one charge alleges he stood near to a Jehovah's Witness stand on the Cross in Gloucester City Centre on May 3 holding up a newspaper with the headline “Paedophile Jehovah's Witnesses”.

    READ MORE: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6bcmdc/in_uk_you_cant_publicly_hold_up_a_newspaper_with/

    An Apostate's Public Talk at the Kingdom Hall

    15 May 2017

    Talk starts at 38:20 - first five minutes is audio only, then video/audio for the rest of talk - the first part of the video below is a 'postmortem discussion.'

    READ MORE: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6bgfbx/remember_the_post_about_an_apostate_giving_the/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiNLUSFBxVU

    WT: Public Reading of Study Material at Congregation Meetings (Footnotes)

    14 May 2017

    TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS - May 14, 2017 - Re: Public Reading of Study Material at Congregation Meetings

    Material in Footnotes, Endnotes, Parentheses, and Brackets: Footnotes and endnotes should not be read by the assigned paragraph reader. The conductor should decide to what extent the thought in a footnote or an endnote should be included in the discussion. After the paragraph has been read, the conductor might choose to have someone in the audience read the footnote or endnote or he might choose to ask for a comment on it. In some cases, he may choose not to refer to it at all.

    READ MORE: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6bakdu/may_14_2017_to_all_bodies_of_elders_re_public/

    Previous WT direction was: Kingdom Ministry September 1996, page 7

    Question Box: What should be kept in mind regarding reading the paragraphs at the meetings?

    Read the Material as Printed: Footnotes as well as information in parentheses or brackets are ordinarily read aloud if they clarify the printed text. The only exceptions are references that simply identify source material. A footnote should be read where it is referred to in the paragraph, prefacing it by stating: “The footnote reads . . .” After reading it, simply continue with the rest of the paragraph.

    Germany: Vice asks a JW ten questions

    Vice, 15 May 2017

    Vice asks a JW ten questions.... (via Google Translate)

    We meet Melanie in the kingdom hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Berlin-Gesundbrunnen, a barren room, a row of chairs on a row of chairs, a lectern on a small stage. As in a church it does not look. Only posters with psalms in four languages ​​reveal that the hall for the people here is a religious place.

    1: How does it feel to stand on the street and know many people find freaky what you're doing?

    2: Is it at all an efficient way to convince people of your faith by standing on the street?

    3: How many people are talking to you at all?

    4: Are you sometimes cursed at work?

    5: Do you despise non-believers?

    6: Will God destroy me because I do not believe in him?

    7: You do not celebrate your birthday. Do you sometimes celebrate secretly?

    8: When were you finally able to do something because you are a Jehovah's Witness?

    9: How much money do you spend every month in the community?

    10: When do you expect the sunset?

    READ MORE (German): https://www.vice.com/de/article/10-fragen-an-eine-zeugin-jehovas-die-du-dich-niemals-getraut-haettest-zu-stellen

    READ MORE (Google Translate): https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vice.com%2Fde%2Farticle%2F10-fragen-an-eine-zeugin-jehovas-die-du-dich-niemals-getraut-haettest-zu-stellen
  • sir82
    sir82

    LOL.

    The numnuts just can't stop micromanaging. Who gives a flying donut if the footnotes are read or not?

  • darkspilver
    darkspilver

    Trolling the obits in the name of God

    Visalia Times-Delta, 15 May 2017

    Trolling the obits in the name of God

    On Wednesday, May 3, 2017, my mother passed away. In the course of making arrangements, I placed an obituary in the Visalia Times Delta. One of the benefits of the Internet is having that announcement posted online, available for family and friends to see and leave condolences. It's become apparent that certain "Christians" also troll those online announcements, for purposes of proselytization. On Monday, May 15, my sister in Kansas received the following:

    READ MORE: http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/opinion/alternatingcurrents/2017/05/15/trolling-the-obits-in-the-name-of-god/101737522/
  • John Free
    John Free

    138 years of washtowel magazines and finally the spirit has revealed what the reader needs to do with the footnotes. All we need to know now is what colour pants the reader should wear...

  • Awakenednow
    Awakenednow

    😂😂😂 the best apostate troll ever! Loved the talk! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍

  • Awakenednow
    Awakenednow

    Darkspilver, that is eye-opening. Always felt uncomfortable writing those letters. Condolences to you and your family for the loss of your mom.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Apostate's last public talk ? Freaking fantastic ! Really great thinking points he gave the audience in that talk. They were none the wiser as to who was giving the talk. Pretty clever. And then for the speaker to skip out for an " emergency " near the end of the talk- smart move. Also enjoyed the rock music video at the end. Nice band and this ex-elder can play some guitar ! He bears a resemblance in the face to Dave Matthews actually a little bit. Hopefully he made some JW's in the audience think with his " public talk " . Pretty epic stuff, thanks for sharing

  • Saename
    Saename

    The most important three points the speaker made are these:

    1) Thomas and his need for proof.

    2) Apostasy in the organisation + hidden reference to Ray Franz.

    3) No need for an organization, for anyone who believes in Jesus will be saved: "[...] because if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. [...] For, 'Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved'" (Rom. 10.9, 13).

    After he mentioned these three things, it was no surprise the elders realised what was going on.

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    And I would suspect that it all went over the head of the "listening" congregationn and nobody present would have got what he was referring to.

    It was a subtle message given to an audience who are brainwashed ,nobody would have got the message that was directed to them .Sadly

  • AverageJoe1
    AverageJoe1

    Regarding the letter about reading paragraphs, I'm not sure if that's legit mainly due to the date: 14th May 2017, which is a Sunday and nobody in the committees in Bethel works on a Sunday. I could be wrong of course but we haven't had that letter yet in Spain.

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