Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

by patio34 42 Replies latest social current

  • jelly
    jelly

    Both the left and right have their intollerant wack jobs. I think its important to call these guys for what they are no matter if its a Dem or a Rep trying to hire the lunatic. This guy must go.

    Terry

  • waiting
    waiting
    Hager's track record of using religious beliefs to guide his
    medical decision-making makes him a dangerous and inappropriate candidate to serve as chair of this committee. Critical drug public policy and research must not be held hostage by antiabortion politics.

    That's just the oddest thing to say.................

    ie: jail riots. It doesn't do the rioters a whole lot of good to take other prisoners hostage. Rioters take guards, etc., as hostages - because the other side wants their own people back.

    In view of this strategy..........why would ANTI-abortion politics take hostage critical drug public policy and research by having Dr. Hager in this committee?

    Wouldn't PRO-abortion politics NOT want Dr. Hager?

    In today's America, a totally qualified man is labeled a "dangerous and inappropriate candidate" because he is opposed to murdering unborn babies. Disgraceful. -Borgfree

    Who says he's "totally qualified".............the ones who agree with him? You're argument is flawed, borg.

    The ones who oppose him might not even agree with abortion - but they DO agree that unmarried women should have the right to contraceptives, amongst other things. Good Lord - that argument died in the late 60's.

    waiting

  • borgfree
    borgfree

    Jst2laws,

    When a person makes moral judgments of others based on their conservative interpretation of the Bible or any other holy book you have a "dangerous and inappropriate candidate".

    I can understand why you think that way. I do think, however, that our country has a history of very religious men being in office. Some say that our nation has never been a Christian nation, but I think history shows that it has been, from the start. My point is, that although there were always men of faith and especially Christian men in office, our country has done pretty good over the years.

    I personally would prefer, anytime, a Christian in office rather than a Godless man.

    Waiting,

    Who says he's "totally qualified".............the ones who agree with him? You're argument is flawed, borg.

    To be honest I do not know the man or his qualifications, but I do know something about the man who appointed him. I like George Bush, I trust his decisions and appointments. I remember a former President who appointed some of the most untrustworthy people you could imagine.

    Borgfree

  • patio34
    patio34

    Great posts, everyone!! Such an intelligent bunch discussing things respectfully! I'd hate to have to see women lose ground on important issues such as birth control, etc.

    I'm not a supporter of abortion, but believe it's not the government's business to make such rulings. Especially about the "morning-after" pill, etc. That is unless the fundamentalists care so much about the children that they'll take them and raise them. It seems they let that fall flat. But then again, it's not the government's realm to decide, especially on a religious basis.

    This may be a country composed predominantly of people of the Christian faith, but that does not mean the laws of the land should be based on that faith. Good grief! Women would be set back, gays would lose ground, and, and, . .. well, you get the drift. I'm at work and gotta run.

    Cheers!

    Pat

  • borgfree
    borgfree

    Patio34,

    I'm not a supporter of abortion, but believe it's not the government's business to make such rulings.

    I don't think I would disagree with you on that, but the socialist/liberal side has changed laws over the years that were in effect for a very long time, I do not necessarily agree with their methods either.

    That is unless the fundamentalists care so much about the children that they'll take them and raise them.

    I think we have all been doing that for many years now. Irresponsible people keep having babies and by our tax dollars we pay for them, from the cradle to the grave. The answer is to educate and/or force the ones who have the children to pay the cost for them. I do not believe they should have the option to get pregnant, whenever they please, and then use abortion as a birth control method. I think that is murder, however you look at it.

    especially on a religious basis.

    Why should a persons religious beliefs be any less important than an atheists, or any other persons beliefs? I think Christian standards are just as valid as anyone else's.

    Now that Christian beliefs are considered taboo in this country, are we so much better off than we were 50 years ago, when Christian standards were the rule?

    but that does not mean the laws of the land should be based on that faith.
    What's so bad about that? What standards should be used in making laws? None? I think that is where we are heading.
  • berylblue
    berylblue
    Christian in office rather than a Godless man

    So non-Christians are GODLESS?

  • berylblue
    berylblue

    I will say it again: George Bush is not only an idiot.

    He's a dangerous idiot...to the point of being criminal.

  • patio34
    patio34

    Ha-ha Beryl, a friend at work said that he thought when GWBush got elected "How much harm can he do, he's so stupid?"

    Thanks for your reply Borgfree. I won't go into it point-by-point because it may be pointless (pun intended!), but basically the government should be secular and the laws should be made for the good of the most people it can be. Why does religion have to enter into it? Indeed, the famous separation of church and state precludes it. People can have common sense outside of religion. It also has nothing to do with atheism. It's merely two separate orbits: secular and religious. People have agreed for a long time that they should be separate too.

    Cheers!

    Patio

  • borgfree
    borgfree

    Berylblue,

    So non-Christians are GODLESS?

    In my hurry I used a poor choice of words. I should have said believers as apposed to non-believers, but there are some believers who would change this country into a dictatorship, so I would not include all religions. I do not believe Bush has, or would ever have, any intentions of turning this country into a theocracy.

    He's a dangerous idiot...to the point of being criminal.

    I have no idea where you would get such an opinion. I have seen only good from the current President, certainly nothing like the last one.

    Borgfree

  • pamkw
    pamkw

    Why does non of this surprise me? I used to like Bush, but lately I am becoming sorry that I voted for him. He seems bent on dragging the country backwards.

    Pam

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