Yeah wow women can finally wear pants and men beards...but 1914 is still a date not accepted since Charles Russell times and blood fractions are evil!!
Are they crazy!!!!
Stupid dumb ass changes yet blood and 1914 no change???wtfge???
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Witness 007
Dealing with minor crap...when there are bigger issues...what a joke these guys are idiots.Raymond Franz was the last of the thinking great Govening body members and they fired him...hi helped write "Aid to bible understanting" a true scholarship book who had to leave because of simple minded idiots! -
blondie
Unless they choose hemoglobin-based products, then it is a "conscience" matter.
HEMOGLOBIN BASED PRODUCTS ARE MADE FROM WHAT?
It is typically obtained from donated blood that has expired before it is used. Other sources of hemoglobin come from spent animal blood. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2738310/
Yet in the November 2006 the Kingdom Ministry had this on form for jws to fill in and use
“RED CELLS
HEMOGLOBIN—33% OF RED CELLS
A protein that transports oxygen throughout the body and carbon dioxide to the lungs. Products being developed from human or animal hemoglobin could be used to treat patients with acute anemia or massive blood loss.
____ I accept hemoglobin
or
____ I refuse hemoglobin
HEMIN—LESS THAN 2% OF RED CELLS
An enzyme inhibitor derived from hemoglobin that is used to treat a group of rare genetic blood disorders (known as porphyria) that affect the digestive, nervous, and circulatory systems.
____ I accept hemin”
Or
____ I refuse
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Beth Sarim
The Borg truly has a tiger by the tail with the "blood doctrine".
1914,, its tough as well to scrap. It could just fade away.
The blood doctrine. Thats a whole different thing. They're bound to the hip with it
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DesirousOfChange
Regarding the Blood Doctrine, WT just needs to practice what they "preach" -- that is, how they SAY they react to anyone who accepts a transfusion to save their life. Their compromise (supposedly) is that if someone who admits (confesses) to accepting a transfusion need only "repent" for doing so in their moment of weakness and their is no JC action.
At least that's what they claimed in the negotiation with (I think it was) Bulgaria.
With the new "kinder, gentler" approach to those who sin (90-day probationary wait time), I would think they would go even easier on the matter. WT has their "tit in the wringer" over their DF/shunning policies and it is putting at financial risk.
They be better to just adopt a "conscience matter" policy towards it all. Disban the HLC, or at least tell them to back off and not to pressure those at risk to refuse a transfusion and leave it between the individual and God.
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Rattigan350
Why would 1914 change? The only thing that can change is stating that we don't have the exact date of the start or end. It is not as Russell presented it, Oct 1st. He thought that God waited on a calendar.
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blondie
Actually 1914 did change when the end didn't come in 1914. Finally, adjusted to 1914 as the beginning. see this link for the whole story. https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php It is important to know what Watchtower preached would happen in the years leading up to and including 1914, and compare this with what it now claims was said.
What Watchtower said
prior to 1914What Watchtower claims it said
prior to 1914"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239 "The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 "Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8 -
Beth Sarim
Not just "change 1914",, they can scrap it altogether..
The "blood" doctrine,, well they cant.
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blondie
Hemoglobin-based products are made from expired blood (donated) and animal blood. Now it seems that hemoglobin-based products do not have blood in them, although the starting point to make them is blood.
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vienne
I agree, they should seriously reconsider 1914. But calling them names is off-putting and solves nothing.
