Baptism for Remission of Sins

by chacha 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • chacha
    chacha

    dear Gopher and Pomegranate<
    Thank you both for your words of encouragement.
    I do love my sister and am her primary caregiver. I am 7 years older that she is and have been somewhat of a mother figure to her since I took care of her when she was little while our mother worked. I love her so much that if I could trade places and have the cancer for her I would. I was spending so much time with her that i was neglecting my husband and my own health so have had to back off and force her children to help some. Any help that either of you would deem helpful would be greatfully appreciated. I will check this site often for any postings. Again thank you both. In Christian Love, Chacha

  • chacha
    chacha

    Dear Gopher and Pomagranate<
    Thank you so much for answering so promptly. I love my sister very much and was her primary caregiver and sat with her through all of the initial dr visits , surgeries, cat scans, mri's and the works and the chemo. She will soon start radiation and if I could have the cancer for her I would. Also talked with a couple of the physicians in private and knew more that she did about her condition because she did not want to know any more than she had to. We had everyone we knew praying for her. She had a 10 to 20 percent chance of survival.
    The prayers must be working because last week we were told that her cancer has shrunk 70% with only one lymph node envolved when there had been four. She has non small cell lung cancer and was considered stage 3b which was bad news . The oncologist personally called her to tell her the good news and even he was surprised at her progress and now feels that there is a good chance for cure. Would appreciate both of you praying for her also. And again, thank you for your help and would appreciate anything else you might feel would be of benefit.
    In Christian Love, (Charlotte) my real name

  • pomegranate
    pomegranate

    Charlotte,

    If there was ANYTHING that could put a dent in JW's thinking, it would be a book by a gentlemen named Ray Franz. It's titled Crisis of Conscience. Ray was on the "govering body" of the JW's. Those are the guys that make the rules so to speak. IF you could get her to read that book, she may look at things differently.

    Mind you, Ray Franz has been tagged as an "Apostate" by the JW's heirarchy, meaning in so many words, he's been blackballed. But if there was ANYTHING that would do something, it would be that book.

    You may wish to get it to read yourself. Then try and get sis to examine it. I have a couple of ideas you may be able to use to get her to read it. Get the book, read it. Then you may be able to advance your position to her by getting her to read it.

    You sound like such a fine loving sister. Someone I'd be proud to have as a sis.

    love, pom

  • Jang
    Jang

    ChaCha, I had a Jw lady who called on me for a long time. She had cancer behind the eye and had it reomved. She lived another 3-4 years but slowly went blind and eventually she died.

    I didn't debate doctrine with her. I talked about what we had in common, our love of Almighty God, and the fact that it is He who leads us into all truth by his Holy Spirit.

    Right up until her last visit I just encouraged her to look the Almighty God for her Eternal life and know that if she, like all of us, truly sought him out he would never desert her or forsake her.

    We aren't saved by having the right theology but by our heart of faith toward God. How many can rattle off the correct theology only minutes after they have repented and put their faith in the Lord? The cannot. So it is that iright theology won't save you .....

    Go and love your sister. Talk to her about all the good times you have had with her and tell her that you appreciate her. Off to read her bible to her and any of the other things she may want. Feed her spirit because it is here that God will work His will and His way. The Lord use their New World Translation to reveal himself to me ... and he has used it on may other JW's .... Trust God and enjoy her remainign time in peace.

    Hugs

    JanG

  • Jimmer
    Jimmer

    Chacha,
    We all are touched by your current situation. It is really tough. And there are no easy answers or magic words to make it all better.
    What I recomend is similar to what has already been mentioned; keep loving her unconditionally. Christ can reach her and turn her around. Leave the heart and soul changing work to Him. Your responsibility is to simply love her and let her know of a more sure way to God's kingdom.
    Don't sweat it, however. God is just and whatever he decides in the end will be right because He is the measuring rod of right to begin with. You can't change her heart. Only God can. And your love can greatly pave the way for that.
    On a side note, most of us ex-JWs encounter comparable situations with regards to loved ones who are JWs. Whether by impending death, or simply being separated for life, the prospect of a loved one leaving this world a JW as opposed to a Christian saddens us. However, as I said before, God is just and powerful. He can change your sister just like he has changed us and is changing our loved ones.
    Hang tough.
    If its any consequence, I'm sure there will be some of praying for you and her.

  • chacha
    chacha

    Thanks to all who have posted replys and are praying for my sis and for me. I am going out today to purchase the book "Crises of Conscience"

    And you are all right I must learn to let go and let God.

    Being the oldest girl in the family this has been difficult for me to do. But will try my utmost.

    Again , thanks to all. In Christian love, Charlotte

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Charlotte,

    I can only add my best wishes for you & your sister during this difficult time! Of course you'll be in our thoughts and prayers!

    Jimmer, pommie & Jan: "well said!".

    Charlotte, if you can would you let us know how things go as time progresses?

    Regards
    GOPHER

  • chacha
    chacha

    Dear Gopher,

    Yes i will let you know what is happening. I located the book and it should be here in a few days. Went to 5 different Christian Bookstores, also to Borders and finally called Barnes and Noble and they had it in their warehouse. Am most anxious to read it.
    In Christian Love
    Charlotte

  • Lord Zagato
    Lord Zagato

    Baptism is an important act that demonstrates faith which pleases God. But it itself doesn't have the same saving power as faith.

    Actually, baptism is an act of faith, since one who goes forward to be baptized must be sure that he believes in what he is going into. Also, see 1 Peter 3:21 about baptism there.

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