Know it’s not true but stay anyway

by Elena 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • FedUpJW
    FedUpJW
    I might agree that most JWs think that some of it is NOT TRUE, but still they will tell you that IT IS THE CLOSEST TO THE TRUTH that is out there anywhere.

    Agreed. I've come to the conclusion that "Da Troof" is an awful lot like a tall, refreshing glass of iced water on a scorching hot day . . .with just a very few drops of urine in it. There may be a lot that is "refreshing" about what JW's spout, but the fact is there are those few drops of urine in everything they say that pollutes the whole glass! I for one refuse to drink it!

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    ""Its easier to fool people,,than to convince them they've been fooled".

    Mark Twain

    And the sunk cost fallacy

    Or,,,maybe,,,,just naive and stupid.

  • Ding
    Ding

    I think that insofar as JWs actually believe the Watchtower teachings, it's because of the constant repetition along with the constant putdowns of alternatives as worldly and satanic.

    The constant indoctrination leads them to shut their minds off when anyone tries to show them the doctrinal flip flops and false prophecies.

    Many years ago, I tried to show an elder some of the ridiculous statements the WT has made. I used Randy Watters' "Thus Saith the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses" booklet.

    He refused to look at the evidence because of the source -- "apostate material."

    I tried to get him to check the originals to see if Randy's photocopies were of actual WT publications or apostate forgeries, but he simply shut his mind down and stalked out of the room.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    ". . . he simply shut his mind down and stalked out of the room."

    A Few Good Men "You Can't Handle The Truth" Scene | BETWEEN THE LINES

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    Ding, you are so right! Someone said on Reddit that they showed their mom a bound volume with a false teaching in it. The mother had the audacity to say that “Satan changed the bound volume.” 🤷‍♀️

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    What is not true?

    You are not referring to the doctrines because they are true.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    The GB knows it’s wrong…

    …but believes it’s True…

    …at the same time.

    Why would life-long loyalists with no other prospects view things any differently?

  • Rivergang
    Rivergang
    but this is probably true with all religions around the world?

    Typically, they might give lip service to whatever their religion teaches, but in practice just quietly ignore its more extreme demands. (A good example of this being the Catholic Church's stance on contraception. Not too many "practicing" Catholics pay a lot of heed to that one!)

    It is similar amongst the JWs. I notice that the ones who have remained long term with the religion are generally those who are likewise inclined to turn a blind eye to the more extreme (or more ridiculous!) utterances of the GB. This is certainly the case in my family, anyway.

    Within any of the so-called "Mainstream Churches", such a course of action is not too difficult to take. For example, the Catholic Church's rules are "attend mass at least twice a year, and confession at least once a year". Meet those requirements, and the church generally leaves you alone.

    However, amongst the JWs, it must be a lot more difficult to maintain the charade? (This question is addressed to those who are PIMOs).

    As WC Stevenson summed it up in his 1968 work The Inside Story of Jehovah's Witnesses: "No other religious group would demand so much from its members, in return for so little". Compared with the other Christian churches, the demands placed on their adherents by the WTS/GB is greater by a number of magnitudes. (In fact, this difference is what mathematicians would describe as "exponential").



  • Ding
    Ding

    An ex-elder once said to me, "If you want to just get by, there are a whole lot of religions easier to do it in than Jehovah's Witnesses."

    (Granted, that was back when you still had to report all your time.)

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