Hi there old You Know: I figured that when H20 went down and I did not see you, that you have no where else to go. But, alas! you have followed us truth seekers to the JWD forum so you can continue your unique education, unlike that old babylonish church you call the Watch Tower Society.
IN my post on C-14 you state: ""According to their wish this fact escapes their notice, that there was an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water..." That pretty much explains the rational of your entire argument; that as a ridiculer of Christ's presence, it is your wish to blind yourself, and others, to the fact that Jehovah once destroyed an ancient world;"
I am not sure if your remarks were addressed to me as the post originator, or to AF who posted a response. But, once again, other than a quote from the New World Translation you provide no real discussion or debate or evidence.
You continued, " ... even in your foolish presumption of imagining that you have some how disproven that such a thing occured."
I am not saying that I have disproven whether there was a flood. I am saying that a global flood that covered the entire planet is not within the laws of physical science, and most importantly, the evidence shows that such a global flood did NOT happen. God would have to use his magic hand on a lot of things and hide the evidence and create new evidence so as to mislead us. Does that sound like a God of truth to you?
You continued, "Because the Bible indicates in several places that the earth was originally shrouded with an atmospheric ocean, and as noted, such a condition would have greatly affected the amount of C-14 produced, you therefore are forced to declare that no such flood took place in order to prop up your cornball theories of human origins."
The Bible says no such thing. Watch Tower interpretation twists what the Bible says into some cockeyed theory so they can make Biblical Myth sound as if it were fact. But, if you strip away their weird interpretations, then the allegorical aspects mixed with a regional or local flood could be possible and help teach some lessons.
As far as C-14, the Bible says nothing about it. But you still miss the point. Even if the earth were covered with some type of water layer, it would have to be a mix of vapor and frequent condensation, which would violate the "Watch Tower's no rain before Noah theory." remember, the WTS said the people did not understand rain and that is why they laughed at Noah. Much like the way You KNow laughs at science, until the flood of facts in evidence sweeps you away.
But, since Adam was supposedly not created until close to the end of the 6th day, about 6,027 years ago, then the time from then until Noah was comparitively very short, so humans have since Noah's time taken in C-14 at about the same levels as now. But, atmospheric C-14 is not the only way we get C-14, we also ingest it through foods. So, I am not sure, even with a dense vaporous cloud just what reduction in C-14 would be, if such a cloud canopy did indeed exist. But ...
The human body maintains a fairly constant rate between stable C-12 and C-14 while alive. Our body passes surplus C-14 through urine and stool. So, if Adam and company were taking in less C-14, then in all likelihood they were passing less C-14 and maintaining about the same ratios as we do today.
But, more importantly, and the major glaring point you miss is that not only does C-14 accurately help determine humans existed before 6,027 BCE, but that other methods have verified this, and even of one can, say, reduce the level of C-14 intake by 50% due to some mytholiogical water canopy, this still means that those human remains dated at 50,000 years via C-14 method, would now be only 5,730 years younger, or 44,270 years old. Why, you say?
Remember, C-14 dating is only good for about 50,000 to 60,000 years after which its half-life is so reduced, that it is hardly measurable. So, now we have a human bone that measures 50,000 years based on a 1/1024th remaing level of C-14 to C-12. Ummm, let's see, how does this work then?
You know says that the water canopy must have reduced the C-14 level in the human body back then by at least 50%, so that it messes up the measurement, and with less C-14 due to that canopy running interference, then the specimen appears much older than it is. Okay, let's reduce the C-14 by 50% to account for the effects of shielding from a water canopy. The half-life of C-14 is 5,730 years. So, a 50% reduction in C-14 ingested would yield one reduction in half-life, or 50,000 years measured less 5,730 years means that the specimen is now 44,270 years.
You know says that can't be. something must be wrong here. The canopy must have reduced the C-14 by much greater margins. Okay, Yon Know. Tell us how much a mythical vapor canopy will reduce C-14 ingested by humans, and tell us what the life of C-14 levels shown in human specimens today will really yield. Come on, You KNow, do the math.
Good to see you back buddy. - Simply Amazing.