Just another email to Quotes

Quotes

Hi gang, long time to type ;)

Just thought I would share another email I received regarding my website http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com, as well as my response.

----- Original Message -----
From: "dave [xxxxx]" <dave[xxxxx]@hotmail.com>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:55 PM

> Hi My name is David
> I noticed on your site that most of the time you pretend you have
> contradictions quoted from the Watchtowers publications that the quotes
> being compared are dated unreasonably apart from each other. Such as on the
> matter or rape and fornication. The publications that say it is fornication
> are from the 1960's and the publications that say it is not fornication is
> from the 1980's. Much more recent.
> Is it wrong for a corporation to make revisions on a matter? We are all
> imperfect beings and may have interperated things incorrectly in the past,
> but what makes Jehovah's Witnesses different is that due to the clensing
> ways of the religion imperfections are constantly being sifted out. Wrong
> doers are constantly being removed, and in the process... wrong teachings.
> Jehovah's Witnesses only every try to better themselves and live by what the
> bible says which is more than what any other religion can say. Catholic
> preiests who have molested children have been in the past and are now just
> serving in other areas. commiting the same crimes, and the church is and
> will pay financially. Where as if a Jehovah's Witness elder does such a
> thing they are removed from there position and can never serve as an elder
> or even a minesterial servent, ever again. The society is not perfect and
> does not claim to be, but it is clensing itself constantly.
>
> So why dont you take all the dated information from your website and CD off,
> and only use all the most recient information and then take a look and how
> Quintessential, Decisive, and Conclusive your material is. It would simply
> be a collection of quotes defending what Jehovah's Witnesses believe today.
>

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My Response to Dave:
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Dear Dave [xxxxx] <dave[xxxxx]@hotmail.com>

Thank you for taking the time to write to us. It is always good to receive feedback from visitors to our website.

I suspect that the points in your letter have already been addressed in the Frequently Asked Questions section of our site (http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/admin-faq.htm); please read this section of our website for your edification.

In addition to the above mentioned F.A.Q., I would also like to propose the following to give you something to think about. Please read this with the good natured sincerity with which it was written. I will re-write your letter, almost exactly word-for-word, but change only a few nouns and a few other words. In order for this to work, imagine you own a website with a collection of quotes from.... oh, I don't know.... lets choose the Catholic Church. It really doesn't matter who we use, it would work the same with any other group: Lutherans, Unitarians, Methodists, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Scientologists, Branch Davidians, Raelians... it really doesn't matter which group I use for this exercise, so if you don't like my arbitrary choice of Catholic, feel free to recreate the exercise with another group.

OK, so imagine you are the webmaster at "Quotes.CatholicChurch.com" and you receive the following letter:

> Hi David, My name is John-Paul.
>
> I noticed on your site that most of the time you pretend you have
> contradictions quoted from the Catholic Church publications, or the pronouncements
> of the Pope, over the years. I also noticed that the quotes
> being compared are dated unreasonably apart from each other. Such as on the
> matter of "The Inquisition". The Inquisition is from the 13th century and the publications that
> have the Pope's apology for The Inquisition is
> from the 1990's. Much more recent -- over 700 years difference, in fact.
>
> Is it wrong for a corporation to make revisions on a matter? We are all
> imperfect beings and may have interpreted things incorrectly in the past,
> but what makes Catholics different is that due to the cleansing
> ways of the religion, imperfections are constantly being sifted out. Wrong
> doers are constantly being removed, and in the process, wrong teachings.
>
> Catholics only ever try to better themselves and live by what the
> bible says, which is more than what any other religion can say. Just look at the
> example of Mother Teresa, who spent her life providing comfort for the lepers
> in Calcutta, the poorest of the poor of the world, without regard to the religious
> beliefs of the sick and dieing. On the other hand, Jehovah's Witnesses
> elders who have molested children have been -- both in the past and now -- just
> moved to serve in other congregations, or are sometimes serving in the same congregation, because the
> police were never called for a proper forensic investigation, and since there
> was not a "2nd witness" to the crime, and since the Elder denied the charge, then the Elder
> was judged "not guilty" and nothing else was done.
> Or else the victims are disfellowshipped for "homosexuality"
> even though they were unwilling child victims to an unwanted sexual attack.
> Because of this Society policy, they are committing the same crimes, and the Society is and
> will pay financially. Where as if a Catholic priest does such a
> thing they are removed from their position and can never serve as an elder
> or even a Deacon, ever again. And the police are called, so they have to answer to
> criminal charges as well. The Holy Catholic Church is not perfect and
> does not claim to be, but it is cleansing itself constantly.
>
> So David, why don't you take all the dated information from your website and CD off,
> and only use all the most recent information and then take a look and how
> Quintessential, Decisive, and Conclusive your material is. It would simply
> be a collection of quotes defending what Catholics believe today.
>

David, let me put it another way: are you in favor of hiding the past of other religions? Do you object to websites that have information about the Catholic Church's responsibility for The Inquisition (for example)?

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

[email protected]
http://Quotes.JehovahsWitnesses.com
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I will let you know the the smoke stops pouring out of Dave's head long enough for him to make a response to me.

Cheers everybody!

Aztec

Wow! I'd like to hear a response to that.

~Aztec

Satanus

Excellant.

mouthy

Another one sent your way!!!! You do an excellent job My love !!! Let us hope & pray he sees the true light---LOVE!!!!!! Keep up the good work. You are ONE Vessel -That IS showing NEW LIGHT!!!!(HUG)

Gadget

Thats one good letter. I wonder if he will respond.

jst2laws

Hello Quotes,

Very imaginative response. You have a kind approach.

As for the poor Jdub,

Is it wrong for a corporation to make revisions on a matter?

No! It's NOT wrong for a CORPORATION to make revisions on a matter. Just don't PRETEND TO BE A RELIGION DIRECTED BY GOD!

Jeeeezzzz

Jst2

StinkyPantz

Quotes-

Excellent response!! It's too bad he won't be writing you back.

berylblue

Wrong
> doers are constantly being removed, and in the process... wrong teachings

Sorry, but it's eluding me how these two go hand in hand. OH, I get it. When I was removed for smoking, apparently I was also spouting wrong teachings like rape = fornication. Thank GOD they got rid of me....now the way is clear to set the WTS paths straight.

Hamas

I was trying to tell my mother, who finds it so hard to destroy the WT chains that still hold her down even after leaving, that we are the more intelligent species for actually leaving the WT.

All these other suckers, like this bum that sent this mail, is simply at the lower end of the evolution process. He still hangs on to faulty teachings by old men, still wonders about like a little boy lost, clinging to false hope. He hasn't broken free yet; he still believes in fairy tales.

But all us guys, all of us here, and all other Ex Jws, have escaped this kind of control. We have broken free ! When we see JW's now, whether on the service, or gathered at conventions etc, we can look at them like they are lower species, because at the end of the day, they are. Just remember that....

Rose