by shotgun 16 Replies latest jw friends
shotgun:
Your experience does not surprise me at all. I really believe that a dub has to take the first step on their own. No matter how much evidence or how much we may want it, there's simply no way to force a JW to see the light if they haven't taken that first step on their own.
I really wish there was a magic pill that would open their eyes... I would use it on all of my family that's still trapped within the borganization.
I presented my best information to those I cared about for myself, not them. I happen to be aware that Witnesses will commit medical suicide. I wanted to know if my Witness relatives committed suicide, I had done my best to provide them with objective information beforehand and they did the deed with information, not without it. It was all about my personal reasons. I did my best. If they die due to medical suicide I will have as clear a conscience as possible.
If they shun me because I tried to expose them to information that might be useful to them to save their own life, so be it. I guess I'd do it again. Some days I'm not so sure I would have. In retrospect, I've accepted it all.
The thing that did surprise me was the violent nature of the rejection of me when it came. That's all ancient history now too. I've accepted that with the rest.
There is no evidence that you can present to them that they will acknowlege, unless it comes from ,or is approved by the org.Unless for some reason it provides a "trigger" for their own motivation to do so
They live in a totally insular society that feeds on its own ideology, the very fact that you , a member of their own family would present such information only strengthens the FACT that they are living "so close" to the end. Sadly you will become dead to them. It would be far less embarassing , and they would receive more sympathy ,if you actually were.
Their real family is in the Org. you see.
Makes you reconsider the scripture concerning the loss of natural affection.Natural bonds that children, parents and siblings should be able to trust are meaningless to this mindset.
None of my family ever listened to me so it was with some degree of pleasure to find that several of them had their own conflicts with the elders and became disenchanted to the point of drifting away or being df'd. Logic and reason is such a small part of most religious conviction, especially the heavily controled, that emotion is the only way to put a chink in the armor.
caveman
Well ... I've been dissapointed just like you about there reaction ... but little by little one drop after the other ... It may have it impact.
One of my sister is I hope ready to get really out of it (but not only because of the e-mail I've sent her) ... and my mother is questionning herself ... so
I do have a mountain of evidence too but I decided to let them (my relatives) gradually into this information. since I expected the reactions you have encountered.
Hitting them with a load of this stuff will trigger shell-shock so to speak: they will feel atacked, panic and retreat even deeper into the trenches of denial. From then on you will be seen as a collaborator with the enemy and information you present subsequently will be dismissed right away as untruthful. Further actions are thus rendered useless.
Greven
Sadly you will become dead to them. It would be far less embarassing , and they would receive more sympathy ,if you actually were. Their real family is in the Org. you see. Makes you reconsider the scripture concerning the loss of natural affection.Natural bonds that children, parents and siblings should be able to trust are meaningless to this mindset.
Very good post!!! Thanks! . . . and Welcome . . GaryB
