Do you think that race is a factor in education in the U.S.

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  LongHairGal

  Even though segregation is a dirty word, it happens because people are not going to send their children to violence filled public schools.

  My father sent me to Catholic high school because the nearest public school was largely black and if you were white you would be harassed, beat up or worse..I thank him for looking out for my welfare.

  Just for everybody’s information, people other than Catholic will sometimes send their kids to Catholic (or other private) schools because they will NOT subject them to the environment in public schools!
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  recovering

  Long haired girl did the Catholic school you attended segregate all the minority students into one class or where they spread out among all the classes?
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  LongHairGal

  RECOVERING:

  Of course they were ‘spread out’ with everybody else!

  In all likelihood, these black children’s parents did not want THEM in public schools either. Nobody can learn in a war zone.
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  recovering

  That is just my point Long haired girl. These minority parents paid to have their children at this elite school, yet they are being segregated to one classroom. These minority students are not being spread out as a result of the schools policy. These parents paid 45000 per student to go to this school.
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  LongHairGal

  RECOVERING:

  Well, regarding what you are referring to with this elite school - is this a social experiment of some sort??...If not, I would NOT agree with this segregation within one institution.
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  silentbuddha

  My old school in NJ didn't have enough books for each student. We shared books. My parents and everyone else assumed that it was because there was no money for books. Our highschool did not have language courses either. We had metal detectors, we had 4 armed security guards though. We were suppose to spend our senior year at NJIT (New Jersey Institute of Technology) which was an excellent college. None of this happened.

  Why were we not able to take advantage of this, corruption. Not exclusively white corruption, but we had a black mayor who was one fo the most corrupt politicians of all time known as Sharpe James.

  They people had faith in him because he was a black man with power. The dude only cared about his own pocket. He put family and friends who were unqualified in positions in the government and they siphoned the money off. Don't believe me, look it up.

  Mark Zuckerberg donated 100,000,000 in to 2010, 15 years after I graduated highschool. Many rich white folks in outlying communities matched his donation so that it was a 200 million dollar grant given to the city. COREY BOOKER the light-skinned savior of the Democratic party along with Christie. The money was squandered.

  Hald went to teachers, then a huge chunk went to bureaucratic salaries... the kids saw slightly higher graduation rates but that was mainly in charter schools.

  Look at the grad rates of schools like Newark Central Highschool, Shabazz, Newark Vocational and Technical and you will see nothing profound has taken place.

  This is a class issue first, a race issue second.
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  recovering

  No long haired girl it is not a social experiment. Silent Buddha. The specific example I am referring to has nothing to do with class or finances. It is strictly a racial segregation. ( I am sure that class and finances do play a party in substandard education, however not in this case)
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  silentbuddha

  One thing that many people overlook in the USA is that segregation was not necessarily a bad thing for the African American community. It is political death to even hint at the idea but it is true and the numbers are actually there to prove it.

  The great migration resulted in the decline of family, religious and cultural ties that were actually beneficial for the community.

  It was the fact that separate but equal was not in fact equal. Post integration, African Americans have fared far worse financially.Fewer business owned, fewer property owners, and people separated from familial ties. I think that integration would have happened slowly regardless, but the huge influx of black people fleeing North in hopes of a better future did not pan out as expected.
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  recovering

  Silent Buddha please explain to me how segregation is benificial? I honestly want to know .

  I see that you posted with regards religious, social, and familial ties. I however do not understand how those things improve the level of education.

  Btw not all minorities are black
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  recovering

  Btw Simon I agree with you regarding a poor educational background increasing the possibility of poverty and crime.