by UnshackleTheChains 519 Replies latest watchtower scandals
Just a side note: My Witness mother was telling me how the "special" talk this year will be a video. But,she added,"I sure hope it isn't that Morris guy. I hate to say it,but I don't really like him."
I just smiled and said,I hear he really likes his scotch and whiskey. She said he comes off as judgemental. And my mother is a very zealous Witness. She likes that Mark Sanderson though.
If a JW has $1,000,000 then the Society has $950,000
"Stay thirsty, my friends..."
An old friend of mine, Richard Kelly, served at Bethel in the 1960s shortly after graduating from high school. In 2008, he wrote an autobiography of his early life growing up as a young Jehovah's Witness and his experiences as a volunteer and resident at the Brooklyn Bethel facilities.
In his autobiography, "Growing Up in Mama's Club" (Third Edition March 2008), he describes one of the first tasks assigned to him on his second day at Bethel:
"After lunch, I went to the Bethel home office and was told that I would be assigned a full-time job within the next few days. In the meantime, I could help with several odd jobs. They sent me to work right away breaking beer, wine, and hard liquor bottles into unrecognizable shards. This was done so that the worldly people who picked up the trash wouldn't see how much alcohol was consumed at Bethel, which was significant. It was explained to me that nothing should be done to bring reproach upon Jehovah's organization."
"By mid-afternoon, with the sounds of breaking glass still reverberating in my head, I was escorted to a nearby five-story brownstone. Here my job was to clean the apartment on the second floor...I realized I was cleaning Hayden Covington's home. He was the Clubs's attorney and a key-note speaker at the international assemblies in 1953 and 1958. But that day, in the presence of his redheaded wife and small children, Covington wore a suit that he must have slept in the night before, looked like he had been drinking, and rattled off expletives ... This was my first exposure to the double standards for the Club's top officials."
Randy Watters, a long time critic of the Watchtower and a publisher of books and websites critiquing Jehovah's Witnesses, also served at the Bethel facilities in the print factory around that same time as Kelly was living there. He too reported that drinking and alcoholism amongst Bethelite at all levels - but especially among the top management - was a major problem.
Even among local congregations, you could see such hypocrisy on display. As I was growing up in the 1950s and '60s, I noticed that for the Memorial service, elders would have a full case of Mogen David Wine (usually 8, 9 or 12 bottles) on hand on "Passover" night. Even in those days when there were a lot more "partakers" because so many of the older members had been JWs going back to the Judge Rutherford days - a single bottle - two at the most - would have met the needs of the those actually claiming to be "anointed" and qualified to partake. Even as a young child and a teenager, I knew that most of that wine was going to be split between the "Servants" [what elders were called in those days] and taken home for private usage. My father even came home one night with three bottles of cheap Mogen David dark red wine and he was the lowest level "servant." among our congregation (assistant magazine and territory servant).
So yes, Rutherford and Covington were known alcoholics, but every Kingdom Hall and every Bethel facility was well-stocked to keep everyone happy and calm. After all, being a JW servant/elder could be a very stressful job.
JV
I just saw the video. Lol... it probably wasn’t all for him and the missus. You know how sometimes you question how could the governing body make this type of decision? Well, there you go. Everything is clear now!
There needs to be some consistency with his nickname as we are seeing a variety of nicknames.
"Tight Pants" Tony
"Top Shelf Tony"
"Tony Morris the Turd " ( harsh )
how about Tony "Mortal" Morris
("mortal" being a popular expression used in the North of England & Scotland meaning drunk )
https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/3663018
It has a nice ring to it & some irony ( as he claims to be immortal )
You know how the Slave tells us all never to drink alcohol at dinner time on a meeting night? They don’t want us under any type of influence when we attend the meeting later that evening, because it would be disrespectful to Jehovah. I could see them ignoring their own counsel and sipping those scotches at any hour of the day. The rules don’t apply to them.
From the November 15, 2014 Watchtower: "Does this passage mean that we must not drink anything alcoholic before going to a Christian meeting? Think about these points: We are not under the Law. (Romans 10:4) In some lands, our fellow believers use alcoholic beverages in moderation at meals before attending meetings. Four cups of wine were used at the Passover. When instituting the Memorial, Jesus had his apostles drink wine that represented his blood."
I could see them ignoring their own counsel and sipping those scotches at any hour of the day.
Of course but behind closed doors and with trusted loyal ones.
Isn't there passages in the bible that state to cause injury to ones own flesh is an unrighteous disrespect to god who created us ?
Hard liquor is harmful to ones own flesh, recent medical and health officials have shown this to be true.
