My grandfather who was not a JW told me not to expect anyone from the JW'S or your family to help you. You must do this on your own. Watchtower is a multi Billion dollar company. They won't open their wallet to help you. But the sure got their hands out for your money. I see them for what they are, parasites on society.
Youths who gave up amazing lives
by JohnR1975 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Rivergang
But ooh, it's a different story when they need something.
Nothing like trying to "Hunt with the hounds and run with the hare" - all at the same time.
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LongHairGal
UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
Your wise grandfather who was NOT a Witness was entirely correct in his view. Nobody should be expecting anybody in the Witness religion to give them anything. I hope nobody is holding their breath waiting!
Thank God I knew this. I am not gloating over it but am horrified at what could have happened if I caved in to all the hype! Would anybody be supporting me?? 🤣 I am grateful I worked.
Those Witnesses who did not work at a decent job and fell for the B.S. and pioneered for decades - are in a bad predicament today.. All those older hypocrite Witnesses who pushed poverty/pioneering for young JWs went to their graves after living cushy lives.. They are not even around today in 2025 to help anybody they misled years ago and this is the tragedy of it all.
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joey jojo
Obviously, not every talented JW kid who turned down higher education might have change the world with amazing scientific breakthroughs or sporting achievements. Now that I am older, the thought of any kid that wastes their potential is so depressing.
I'm fortunate enough to own a business but I wish I had a different attitude when I was younger and didnt listen to those around me. I used to envy 'wordly' kids who were able to pursue their dreams with the full support of their parents.
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Balaamsass2
Watchtower has always been a leader in child sacrifice. Get that kid a "Blood Card" (suicide pact card) young! Make those kids stand out as "weirdos" in school with a litany of peculiar beliefs (holidays, national anthems, flag salute, birthdays, school dances, party's, field service in neighborhood, etc. etc.), and insist they have no "worldly" school friends or after school activities (drama, glee, clubs, band, sports, scouts). Insist they get baptized as children so they can be then disfellowshipped, declared bad associates/shunned if they make any youthful indiscretions.
Then as they approach adulthood, cobble their educational opportunities. The long term results? The lowest income level of any US religious group. Lower than US southern black churches. Pew research weighs in:
How income varies among U.S. religious groups
While there is a strong and proven correlation between education and income, it’s harder to know whether there also is a link between religion and wealth. What we can say is that members of some religious groups – not to mention atheists and agnostics – on average have a higher household income than others and those in the richest religious groups also tend, on average, to be better educated than most Americans.
Some of the most financially successful religious groups – Jews, Hindus, Episcopalians, and Presbyterians – also are all among the nation’s most educated as well. These rankings, which come from our 2014 Religious Landscape Study, are based on the percentage of people within each religious group who reside in households with a yearly income of $100,000 or more.
About four-in-ten Jews (44%) and roughly a third of Hindus (36%) and Episcopalians (35%) live in households with incomes of at least $100,000. Again, these groups also have high levels of educational attainment. For instance, nearly half of Hindu adults and almost one-third of Jewish adults hold postgraduate degrees. Indeed, in addition to education, other factors, such as age, race and ethnicity also are correlated with both religion and income.
Members of three other mainline Protestant denominations – the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the United Methodist Church –also have high household income. So, too, do self-identified atheists and agnostics, which may call into question any link between high levels of religious belief and wealth. Members of all these groups also are more likely to be highly educated than the general population.
Among those denominations with the lowest household income are two historically black churches, the National Baptist Convention (9% live in households with incomes of at least $100,000) and the Church of God in Christ (9%). Jehovah’s Witnesses also have low household income (4%). In all three of these groups, nearly half of all members have household incomes of less than $30,000 per year.
Given that roughly one-in-five Americans identify as Catholic, it’s not surprising that the share of Catholics in the top income bracket (19%) is the same as the nation as a whole. Members of one of the country’s largest Protestant denominations, the Southern Baptist Convention, are only slightly less well off, with 16% in households making $100,000 or more."
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/
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LongHairGal
BALAAMSASS2:
Yes, as the research and the chart shows, Jehovah’s Witnesses are at the bottom of the barrel with regard to income (as well as education).
Being ‘out’ for many years and knowing ALL that I know now about the JWs (experience as well as info learned over the years), I would have to be crazy to even want to be around them.. And I am not rich or a ‘snob’. (Unless not wanting to be hassled makes somebody a snob.).. Don’t know about you but I generally avoid situations and places where I would be around panhandlers. Maybe a man might be less bothered(?)
So, the level of frustration that must be in many congregations could be palpable. A visitor would be ‘sized up’. This would give me the creeps.. At least when I left (2001) I was surrounded by decent middle-class people. No desperation yet. Now?? What a mess and I’m glad I left years ago.
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Ugot2bekiddingme1
After I returned from my military Service. And Elder who know me called on me and asked me what it would it take to make me come back to being a JW? I told him I was always poor and broke when I was A JDub. Since I'm out I have money. I have a life.
