Ouija boards have been thoroughly debunked and can be comprensively explained using the ideomotor phenomenon, and self-fulfilling prophecies in the case of premonitions
Satan does not exist, and only a deficient mind would believe he does
Is Satan Real ?
by jdash 53 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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cofty
Thank you Fred F, 'ideomotor' was the word I couldn't remember.
It also explains the apparent success of dowsing.
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garyneal
This video got me thinking that something is amiss about Satan.
It's like this, JWs do not believe in hellfire and use similar justification.
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Pistoff
He's a 'real' part of Hebrew mythology, a.k.a. the bible!
No, he isn't, at least not the being imagined by NT writers.
A great read on this is The Origin of Satan, by Elaine Pagels; she makes the case that there was no place in Hebrew/Israelite/Jewish theology for Satan, that he was the remnants of the trickster god from ancient polytheism days.
By the time of the NT, it had changed.
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atomant
cofty you say its total BS l second that with regards to evolution.A little birdy told me that you once believed in Ouija boards as well in the distant past.Funny bout that.Did you have another change of heart?l could say the same thing about a metal detector and liken it to a divining rod.
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cofty
atomant - that might be the dumbest post in the history of the internet.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
Atomant -
Grow up...
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Dunedain
The "invention" of Satan, is a very simple minded attempt to "explain" the many evils in the world. There are, have been, and always will be, tremendous evils, atrocities, and horrors, that befall humankind, and the world in general.
The animal kingdom moves on, survives, and adapts to these things. Humans have a need to explain these things. To accept such horrors, is sometimes inconceivable to most.
Satan was an attempt by mankind to "answer" why these evils happen. Its almost childlike to say that ALL evil happened, and came into this world from, and by ONE creature.
A creature that we cannot see. We cannot talk to, and we cannot ever truly know. It makes it easy to say the "boogeyman" did it. Satan is the ultimate "boogeyman". The cause for all the wrongs, but he is simply a manmade concept created to "explain" what we don't want to accept.
Yes his forms and name have changed over the years. His place in culture has changed over the years. The way in which he is used, by the clergy as a scare tactic, by the simple as an explanation, and so on and so forth.
In the end Satan is simply a name and face to place upon all that is wrong in the world.
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redpilltwice
Well said Dunedain, that sums it up for me. This world needs more sobering explanations based on logic and reality in order to get rid of religious and suppressing superstition. No proof is no proof...
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atomant
Sorry if l touched raw nerves about peoples prior belief systems l guess the light got brighter .