The Return of Rush Limbaugh

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  • Swickley
    Swickley
    had to beat Swickley and Dakota Red to this thread...

    Badger -- you're so funny

    Some interesting comments, on this subject, to say the least

    My guess is that 'ole Limpbag can't wait to get back on the radio so he can resume his hate spewing and narrow minded, judgmental rhetoric. No, I won't be tuning in to listen to it (Stacy), since there are many more important ways to spend my time. BTW, Stacy, good for you for striving to make A's in college (seriously). I hope your degree plan includes lots of liberal arts classes.

  • Michael3000
    Michael3000
    hey, i listen to Rush everyday, he is a cool guy. Not the first person to struggle with pain killers.

    Guess all of us who never had problems can throw rocks.

    Christ - Dittoheads! Rush Limbaugh is a waste of carbon.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    aw dakota, don't go soft in the head now:

    Although I have said Rush isn't my personal favorite, please remember, he wasn't using illicit drugs for fun or escaping reality. That is what he was discussing in the quotes provided. He was using prescription medications for severe back pain. From there, his addiction grew.

    You may not see a difference, but I sure do. If nothing else, maybe he will realize the dangers we all face when we decide to self medicate ourselves and spread that message to the nation.

    Please. Why make excuses for someone who does NOT have the strength of his own convictions??

    He may have started with back pain, but thirty pills a day is not for pain. How do you think half the addicts in the country start? Many are self medicating for one reason or another; if he was the moral pillar he tries to convince us he is, he would have done this a long time ago, gone to his doctor or shrink and said HELP. He didn't; he is rich, and so he could afford to BUY ILLICIT DRUGS ON THE STREET with impunity till he must have pissed off a former employee.

    But why do I bother; the dunderheads dittoheads think he walks on water.

    I see him as just another blowhard who got caught in his own hypocritical lies.

    I have 20 years clean, so this issue is not foreign to me; I recognize the BS that addicts spout, and the people around them who enable them or excuse their behavior. Will Rush now turn himself in, so that he can go up the river like he has opined???

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed
    Why make excuses for someone who does NOT have the strength of his own convictions

    Why level accusations when none of us really knows anything? Isn't that what the police investigate?

    For someone who sounds like they too once had the problem, you seem mighty judgmental about others. To me, it seems like another case of self-medication that got out of hand. Whether or not he actually has kicked them remains to be seen. According to his brother, this is only completion of the first phase of his recovery. Was it constant condemnation of you that helped you stay clean for 20 years? I wouldn't think so.

    I'd be willing to bet his Monday return to the radio will be just about the largest radio audience in modern radio history. Many will tune in just to see what they can pick out for the next attack.

    Like him or hate him, he was responsible for the return of A.M. radio and the talk format becoming so popular. Even liberals who assail him can thank him for getting the ball rolling. For me, I will still listen more to Sean Hannity.

  • Swickley
    Swickley
    Christ - Dittoheads! Rush Limbaugh is a waste of carbon.

    DITTO TO THAT!!!

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    Pinsky: A hijacking of the survival system

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/10/cnna.pinsky/ (Excerpts below)

    Friday, October 10, 2003 Posted: 8:33 PM EDT (0033 GMT)

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    ? Limbaugh admits addiction to pain medication ? Statement of Rush Limbaugh

    (CNN) -- In a statement during his nationally syndicated radio show Friday, Rush Limbaugh acknowledged an addiction to prescription pain medication. The conservative commentator also said, "I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me."

    Dr. Drew Pinsky, an addiction specialist, spoke with CNN anchor Miles O'Brien about what Limbaugh is facing in terms of the drug, OxyContin, and beating addiction.

    O'BRIEN: They call it "Hillbilly Heroin" in some parts of the country. [Abuse of] OxyContin is a real problem. Just give us a sense, though, from your perspective as somebody who deals with people who are addicted to these kinds of things, how big an uphill battle does Rush Limbaugh face right now?

    PINSKY: Well we're really talking about opiate addiction. And it doesn't matter if you're taking OxyContin, Vicodin, Lortab, heroin or codeine. It's all the same disease and it has basically the same biology.

    It is the form of addiction with the highest recidivism. The biology, the biological grip of the disease, is profound. The withdrawal is miserable and painful. And it takes a long time to recover. Treatments are drawn out. [Addicts] need to stay engaged in intensive, highly structured treatment.

    In my opinion, it's unrealistic to expect somebody to get significant recovery or a high probability of success from opiate addiction without three to six months of intensive treatment. The 30 days is really just getting things started.

    I think we should wish [Limbaugh] well. Who wants this disease? It's the disease that comes upon [people] often accidentally. These are common medications that are prescribed. If you have a history of alcoholism or addiction in your family and you're prescribed that for a period of time, eventually that switch gets thrown in this disease, and you're off to the races.

    O'BRIEN: Is it a physical addiction, a mental addiction or a little bit of both?

    PINSKY: Addiction is addiction is addiction. You can either stop or you cannot. ... There's an activation of a 'reward system' in the genetically prone individual that alters permanently the motivational priorities of the brain.

    It is literally a hijacking of the survival system, whereby the brain begins confusing the actuality of survival with the chemical message of the drug. So people with this disease ... will literally die to get the drug, do anything to get the drug without really consciously realizing this is what's behind the behaviors.

    There's a lot of controversy in my field about how to treat opiate addicts because it is such a profoundly powerful disease that's there's a school of thought we shouldn't even try to treat them. We should just put people on methadone or buphrenorphine or one of these replacement chemicals and just call it a life; just put them on chronic replacement.

    I don't think somebody like a high-level, high-functioning professional would take that option. I hope to hell he doesn't. ...

    That's committing to somebody to really, in my opinion, chronic disease.

    I suspect this will -- [his] coming forward with his disease -- create dialogue about what kinds of treatments are appropriate. I've seen miracle recoveries. I've seen people become better than they ever knew they could be after having suffered this disease. And I have no doubt that he could achieve the same.

    I think putting him on methadone, which is a very difficult drug to stop using, would be a travesty.

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    By the way, I (and CNN, if you note the URL) consider Rush stories to be about show business, not politics.

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    Limbaugh Being Investigated, Source Says

    By JILL BARTON, Associated Press Writer

    WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Authorities are investigating whether Rush Limbaugh illegally funneled money to buy prescription painkillers, a law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity said Wednesday.

    In his third day back on the air after rehab, Limbaugh responded with a blanket denial of the allegations first reported Tuesday by ABC News.

    "I was not laundering money. I was withdrawing money for crying out loud," Limbaugh said in his three-hour broadcast.

    Limbaugh was absent from his show for five weeks after announcing he was entering a drug rehabilitation program because of his addiction to prescription painkillers. But he told listeners he could tell them little about the allegations.

    "I know where the story comes from, I know who's behind it, and I know what the purpose of the story is, and I'll be able to tell you at some point," he said.

    Law enforcement sources in Palm Beach County, where Limbaugh owns a $24 million oceanfront mansion, previously confirmed that a criminal investigation into a prescription drug ring involved the conservative radio commentator. His former maid, Wilma Cline, reported supplying him with OxyContin and other painkillers.

    Authorities learned two years ago during an investigation of U.S. Trust bank in New York that Limbaugh withdrew cash 30 to 40 times from his account at amounts just under the $10,000 bank reporting requirement, ABC News reported Tuesday. A bank employee was reported to have delivered some cash to Limbaugh.

    Limbaugh told listeners the report was misleading and said that he had the bank bring cash to him at his New York office "maybe four times, if that many." Otherwise, he said he obtained cash from a bank in Florida, where he was living.

    "When I went to get cash, I took a check to the bank. I went to the bank officer. I said, `Here's my check,' and they gave me the cash. There were witnesses to this," he said.

    Limbaugh's lawyer, Roy Black, did not return a phone call for comment Wednesday.

    It can be a federal crime to structure financial transactions below the $10,000 limit to avoid the reporting requirement.

    Limbaugh said he started taking painkillers "some years ago" after a doctor prescribed them following spinal surgery. Limbaugh said he became hooked taking the pills for chronic post-surgical pain.

    Limbaugh's drug admission came less than two weeks after he quit as an ESPN pro football commentator. He'd received criticism for saying on the sports network's "Sunday NFL Countdown" that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.

    Limbaugh reported two years ago that he had lost most of his hearing because of an autoimmune inner-ear disease, but some medical experts have said abusing painkillers can lead to profound hearing loss.

    Limbaugh had surgery to implant an electronic device to restore his hearing.

    In the past, Limbaugh has decried drug use and abuse on his show, mocking then-President Clinton for saying he had not inhaled when he tried marijuana and often making the case that drug crimes deserve punishment.

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed

    One thing I have always loved about the left is how they grasp at anything to attempt to discredit anyone on the right, but totally ignore all the Democratic memos coming out of Congress showing Democrats violating and stretching Congressional ethics to their breaking limit in their attempt to regain power.

    As for this latest bit of smear;

    I Have Not Laundered Any Money; ABC Report Creates False Picture

    November 19, 2003

    RUSH: There is something I can respond to that happened on ABC News last night. Now, I know where this is coming from. I can't tell you that. But I can tell you that I understand exactly what's going on, and if you put your thinking caps on, you might, too. The story on ABC News, World News Tonight last night was that there is a money laundering investigation of me that is underway. Let me say here at the top of the program, ladies and gentlemen, that I have never, I have not laundered any money. I want to give you the truth of the story that was sketchily passed on last night, and as I say I know where it came from, I know who's behind it, and I know what its intent is, and you must understand, and I've been saying this since the Friday before I left, a lot of things that people think they know that are not true, think they know that they don't know, and the time will come soon where all this can be explained but for now I have to hold it in check. But I can address this money laundering business that ABC ran last night and a couple of New York newspapers have picked up.

    A few years ago, when I moved to New York, I went to CitiBank, the first place I went, and they had a so-called private banking area, and we were on 54th and 6th, the old ABC building, and this thing was right around the corner. The private banking area had a line every time I went to it, and so I did that, I went for a while, that's how my banking experience everywhere else was, there was a line, and the super-secret special whatever section of the bank only had three tellers and everybody else had nine or ten, so the place that was supposedly special had three tellers, the other place that wasn't special had ten. I went in line and as I lived in New York I met some people and I said, you start talking life and things and they said, well, you need to go to U.S. Trust and they set me up a meeting at U.S. Trust. I was referred to that bank, and when I met with them, they made a pitch to me about their services. They pitched all their services that they provide in the wealth management in the private banking division. In the course of their meeting with me they explained that I would never have to stand in line again, if I needed cash, they'd bring it to me. They had somebody bonded that would bring it to the office and I did that two or three times, two or three times when I couldn't get to the bank myself, I had somebody bring it over, signed the paper when they came and they left. It didn't happen every time I got cash.

    It happened, I don't know, two or three, four or five, whatever, it wasn't very many, it's being reported in the paper it was every time I got cash somebody from the bank snuck over under the cover of darkness to my building, and made the transaction. It was nothing at all like that. It was a convenience that they offered to all of their customers. It's not a traditional bank in that sense. And at this time when they were pitching their services to me, they told me that when I was going to withdraw cash, keep it under $10,000 so they wouldn't have to report anything to the government. There was a $10,000 reporting requirement and they said if you keep it under that, then nobody has to file any paperwork and so forth and so on, meaning them at the bank, and so that's what I did. Any time I got cash from the bank, I made sure it was less than $10,000. I opened up some accounts, and the account that I have is the account that I receive the money that I am owed for the work I do here in the EIB Network. It's the account that I paid bills out of. It's just like yours or anybody else's.

    The cash in question here, most of it had to do with the two-and-a-half-year remodel we did for the home in Palm Beach. In fact, most of the money was not even withdrawn here in New York. I don't live in New York. And throughout most of this period that's in question, I have not lived in New York. So just one of the many areas, the money was for travel, it was for food, it was for gratuities, as I was out and about and playing a lot of golf tournaments as you know building the house. I think the total amount of money they're talking about here comes to about $300,000 over five or six years. It's a lot of money, but given the amount of money I earn and so forth, it's pretty much in proportion with, you know, what anybody else earns in terms of the percentage of walking-around money and cash that they use for things.

    Sometime in the spring of 2001, I was down in Florida at work, and I got an e-mail or something that some officer of the Federal Reserve had been knocking on the front door of my apartment building in New York. And I didn't know what that was about, because they showed up when I was on the air, and somebody showed up down at Florida at the same time, and what ended up happening was they wanted to interview me as a witness in an investigation they were doing relating to the bank, U.S. Trust. So I contacted them, I sat down, and I answered every question that they had. The government and New York state was investigating U.S. Trust because the bank had apparently told many other of their clients that their cash withdrawals should be in amounts of less than $10,000. I was one of the last people they talked to, and they met I guess a couple people after me. I'm not really sure. But shortly after I met with them, U.S. Trust admitted to this and paid a $10 million fine, and that's it. I don't know how many other customers they had advised to do this, but there were enough that they incurred a $10 million fine, agreed to it, and that's what was going on here, folks. I mean, the bank advised all of their customers to just keep the cash withdrawals under $10,000. When I was told what this was and how it was being interpreted, from that moment on, every cash withdrawal I've made has been for over $10,000. I complied with every request that was made of me, and I cooperated fully with their investigation. The clients complied with what they were asked to do by the bank without knowing there was anything wrong with it. The bank agreed to create the training in compliance program so not to have this problem. As I say, once I met with the officials from the Treasury, Federal Reserve or whatever it was, they told me the bank was in the wrong and others said the same thing, I stopped taking withdrawals in amounts of less than $10,000.

    Now I know, and that's the story. And I know where this is all coming from, and I know why it's being done, and I know why it's being reported the way it is, it's being reported to create a picture that is false. This is not a leak, by the way, this is the purposeful release of false information. I'm having to restrain myself here at the same time because I would love to explain all of this, and that day will come sooner rather than later. Again, the things that everybody thinks they know are partial, there is a lot that the people who think they know it all don't know, mostly people in the media and even others. And the day will come where I will be able to sit down and take everybody through it from the beginning to the present. And it'll put things in perspective and change a lot of perceptions.

    I checked the e-mail during the break. "Rush, don't let these people get to you." Folks, let me tell you something. This is not getting to me. I've been telling you this since I got back. There are other people who are alarmed by this and that's one of the reasons I have to set the record straight. I'm not bothered by it because I know what the truth is, I and my team know what the truth is. I'm feeling very good about this. It's just a matter of time before it can be shared. I'm mentioning all this to you so that, really, the e-mails are coming in, "Rush, I can't believe what they're doing to you." It's the territory, folks, and it's just the way it is, but please, you know, understand that everything is cool and it will all be revealed as soon as it can, sooner that later. Trust me.

    I've been told that I was confusing when I explained something about this money laundering story. Let's straighten this out. I was not laundering money. I was withdrawing money, for crying out loud. But the point that I need to clarify is the stories say that there are 30 to 40 withdrawals under $10,000, that they were delivered to me at my New York office. What I thought I said was that maybe four times, if that many, the bank brought cash to me in my office in New York. I live in Florida. When I went to get cash, I took a check to the bank, I went to the bank officer, I said here's my check, and they gave me the cash. There were witnesses to this! There may be, you know, $300,000 in question.

    The stories in the paper today and on ABC last night were what are confusing. They led you to believe, if you believe the story, and you shouldn't, that the bank was delivering three or four hundred thousand dollars to me in, you know, $9,000 increments at a time to my office. That happened once or twice because it was a hassle. I mean they said they would do it, but it was more trouble than it was worth. Besides, I moved to Florida shortly after that, went to the bank down there and withdrew the money by virtue of writing a check. Like everybody else does. Pure and simple.

    So if there's any confusion, I'm happy to clarify it one more time. And, again, there wasn't any money laundering going on, and I know where the story comes from, I know who's behind it, and I know what the purpose of the story is, and I'll be able to tell you at some point.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111903/content/rush_responds.guest.html

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    One thing I have always loved about the right...wait, can't think of it... :)

    I post an interview with Dr. Pinsky that is sympathetic to Rush's personal situation. I hear nothing. I post a story on another thread criticizing the media for not covering possible Iraq-AQ ties - I hear nothing. I post an AP wire service story with no personal editorial comment added, and I get called "the left". Wow...I don't think they elected me union leader.

    Have I ever made a comment directed at you, Dakota? Is there anything I have done to piss you off besides take positions different from yours and discuss them on this board? There is no right or left on this board - no group coordinates its responses - there is simply a diverse group of individuals.

    "Is it me personally that you hate, or is it everything I stand for?" Mr. Robinson, The Graduate :)

    <edited to correct spelling of Pinsky>

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