What happens if you openly declare you are an aethiest, I don't mean go round forcing my view on everyone , but when pressured to go to the kingdom hall etc you stated you are an aethiest and no longer believe in God , surely you can't be accused of apostasy as you simply don't believe in anything ? Anyone experienced this ?
Aethiest
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DesirousOfChange
Of course that is "apostasy". You no longer believe the doctrines of the WTS/JWs. You do not have to be expressing your views to others -- just the fact that you think differently (thus, not in unity of thought) than their doctrines indicates that "Bro Midnight is no longer one of JWs". If you wish to avoid that annoucement, then STFU. . . . Doc
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Heaven
If you declare this to anyone religious, be prepared for them to try and convince you that you are wrong, a blasphemer, that "you're going to burn for that" aka you'll be judged and punished, and ultimately "I'll pray for you" (which in my experience, so far, hasn't worked from any of them that said they'd do that for me ). Then, most of them either avoid you, or don't talk about religion around you.
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midnight
So if I say I'm not sure what I believe anymore , what then? -
Landy
No need to say anything, no need to justify yourself. As DOC says, just stop going and STFU.
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nicolaou
You can't possibly be one of Jehovahs Witnesses. No JW could be so unaware . .
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scratchme1010
What happens if you openly declare you are an aethiest, I don't mean go round forcing my view on everyone , but when pressured to go to the kingdom hall etc you stated you are an aethiest and no longer believe in God , surely you can't be accused of apostasy as you simply don't believe in anything ? Anyone experienced this ?
I believe so, but not necessarily for being an atheist. What I mean is, the WT and the JWs will point at you, will shun you, will attack you if you let them, for as long as you state that you believe anything and everything that is not exactly what/how they say. Atheist, or believer of any else, or non-believer of anything doesn't make any difference. To them that doesn't matter. You are not believing the WT crap. That's enough for them to give you the same treatment.
In fact, just look at some people's stories here on how they have been shunned simply for questioning one or two of their believes while still being active JWs in good standing. So if they go to that extent in their own crop, of course they will treat you like an apostate for not believing in anything. To them there is no difference.
Also, please note that they judge everything based on how they believe things are. Some truly view atheism as if it is some kind of organized entity. I've even heard JWs claiming that people "joined atheism" as if they took atheism studies, baptized as an atheist and go around trying to convert others into atheism or attend some kind of atheist temple. That's how they view the entire world outside, as some kind of unworthy of living enemy. So if you question anything or believe in anything differently from whatever they believe, you are "wordly" and an apostate. End of the story to them.
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midnight
It's not so easy as shutting up as my wife is still in and they visit regular and I'm constantly pressured to go , getting active etc but I just don't believe it anymore
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never a jw
Try lying
" I am burned out"
"I am stressed and tired"
"I am depressed"
"I am taking a break"
"I want a personal relationship with Jehovah, without the interference of others"
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DATA-DOG
The depression card will work, but you can't say that you don't believe.
Anything that starts a discussion where you try to reason with Eldubs WILL fail. The pressure to "group-think" is too powerful for weak minded Religitards to overcome. Why do think the Eldubs visit in pairs? There is always pressure to agree and have "unity of doctrine." Conformity is their only "proof" of being spirit-directed.
The WTBTS is becoming more controlling than ever, doubling down on dogma.
DD