by Sea Breeze 13 Replies latest jw friends
The 2024 data from the JW website indicates that JW teachers have an over 96% failure rate with their students :
2024 Average Bible Studies Each Month: 7,480,146
2024 Baptisms:296,267
Number of bible studies it takes to produce one baptism : 25.25
This means that Jehovah's Witnesses have an over 96% failure rate with people who want to study the bible with them.
Can anyone think of another "educational" system with a 96% graduation failure rate? Does this seem odd to anyone?
When your "in" they try so hard to kick you out for not following their made up rules.
Greenhornet;
Thats whats called a "kangaroo court".🙂
"Number of bible studies it takes to produce one baptism : 25.25
"This means that Jehovah's Witnesses have an over 96% failure rate with people who want to study the bible with them."
People might still invest in a company with a P/E ratio of 25.25... 🙈🙉🙊
"When your "in" they try so hard to kick you out for not following their made up rules."
They could be picky and choosy back when things were tough and the JWs looked like they might have some answers. Them days is gawn! But they still haven't learned the lessons they need to to retain the faithful few who remain.
Stupid see. Stupid do.
I think that the reason why the WT still vigorously supports the d2d, cart work, "bible" studies in spite of staggering "failure" is because in their view its not failure at all. The program still effectively spreads the wicked idea to 7.5 million people per year (to people who might otherwise become Christian) that a person will wake up in paradise for a "do-over" after they die because they can atone for their own sin. No need for Jesus, or the bible study for that matter.
Of course Hebrews 9 : 27 says that there will be a judgment after a person dies. But a lot of bible studies probably decide to row their own boat after accepting the lies of JW "bible teachers" regarding "salvation".
Sea Breeze, and I remember that many of those baptisms, were children of jws, not people contacted outside the jw group. I remember the then presiding overseer gave a talk at the old service meeting, that he had checked the records of bible studies conducted (when they did that), and found only 4 studies with non jws, one baptized, and that person was df'd in a year.
NotFormer, "Them days is gawn" a victim of the increasing of the Internet, and access to so-called by the WTS, secret info, like the elders' manual.
I'm never quite clear as to what constitutes a "study" Long ago I thought one had to be regularly visiting and going through a study publication for an hour at least, then much later they spoke of "door step" studies, where a "progressive" conversation/ repeated visits on scriptural topics for as little as 5 minutes could be counted as a study. Also studying with the same person 4 times in a month would be counted as 4 studies. The numbers are always likely inconsistent and inaccurate
HereIam60, I think they needed to make 3 contacts (including doorstep ones) to put it on their time sheet as a bible study and turn in a bible study report (no longer done). As to counting it as considering making contact 3 or more contacts, only one bible study is counted that month with one person (sometimes 2 if husband and wife), and 1 return visit per visit, based on years as a regular pioneer. The counting by parents studying with their changed has changed many times.
Example: One bible student, 3 times before counted as bible study, only one bible study noted on special slip and turned in (to keep track of how many separate individuals, contact info, publication studied...more complicated back then), and a return visit per each contact. Pre-1975, publishers were told that if person not at the kingdom hall after 6 months, to cancel study and move on to find another person who would study. After all the end is close, and can't wait on people for years to even attend one meeting....https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1969364#h=3
