I think the biggest religeous contradiction I ever read was this sermon on the Trinity. The preacher started off stating that if you did not beleive in the trinity then you were anti-god and a heretic (yes he used heretic, I never heard of anyone actually using that word seriously today). Then he started a sentence saying he didn't understand the trinity and the concept of the trinity is a paradox, but he reaffirmed that he had absolute faith in it. How do you have absolute faith in something that you don't understand and that you feel cannot logically exist? Well, I'm not speaking against the trinity for those who beleive in it (I don't). I am definitely saying that guy was a bad example of how you should preach about it though.
Will it come to this?
by Valis 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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bebu
This is really an evil contract. When a person associated with Scientology begins to see the light and desires to break away, it is in that group interpreted as a religious problem, and the person is kept in solitude and refused permission to be helped or visited by family, friends or REAL health profesionals.
Scientology isolates you by legal contract, which means that you may NEVER leave; and perhaps must spend the rest of your days eluding them and their reprogrammers.
Seems like the worst cults have the most lawyers.
bebu
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bebu
There are several websites that debunk scientology, just as there are websites to debunk the WTS. Just type in scientology into google, and you have your pick.
And yes, that contract is a fairly recent development by the Church for Scientology. From what I've read it is their response to preventing any kind of deprogramming. Re-read how vehemently they denounce psychiatric treatment.
Can you imagine how hard it would be to never be able to get exit-counseling as a JW? That if you tried, the WT would take that as its cue to act on the contract to take into its own hands your "spiritual healing"? And you would have signed away all your personal rights to them--at least that is their goal.
Even if this doesn't hold up in court, the intention of it all is absolutely putrid.
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RunningMan
When is a cult not a cult? When the cult makes the cult member sign a legal form stating that it is not a cult.
It still walks like a duck.
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Panda
it seems that the worst cults have the most lawyers
Bebu, I love that statement. It brought a little bit of light heartedness into a very sad discussion.
Contracts w/ religion so you can never leave... can anyone say inquizition? I suppose that WTS will have the newly baptized signing the answers for their baptism questions. Do you think that will scare some dubs? I hope.
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bebu
This cracks me up: the ads on each thread. And here is a nice one for Scientology right under Valis' first post. What is RTC?------------------------------------------------------------------ (It isn't posting for me here. I'm not a genius with inserting stuff into threads. Sorry!)
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heathen
Only a complete idiot would sign a contract like that . I thought the blood card with the WTBTS was asking too much. From what I heard about the scientology is that they use all sorts of weird rituals that are indeed dangerous . Then to say you have to pay for damages inflicted on you by others , I don't see how this comes under religious freedom . This is a dangerous cult .