The "Baby Boomers" are starting to die off, and the effects

by Captain Schmideo2 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Captain Schmideo2
    Captain Schmideo2

    I was born in 1964, so, I was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).
    Then, when I was a teenager, I got to see the fallour of the big Apostacy events in the 1980s.
    During all of this, I was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the New System be great!"

    It is now 2024. I am going to be 60 years old in a few months. 60. Six-Zero. Over half a century.

    My mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.) And yes, I wept. I wept because there was unfinished business between her and I, things I wish I had told her.
    If I live to 80, that means that I have just about 20 years left in me. That's a very sobering thought, considering how fast the past 20 years flew by.

    So, I have a lot of peers that I grew up with, with parents in the same age group as mine. And they are watching in confusion and pain as, one by one, these parents are dying off.
    The refrain I keep hearing is "this wasn't supposed to be like this; this wasn't supposed to happen!", also followed by the realizaiton that "we" are now becoming the "elderly ones", and that clock is ticking hard.
    Back in 1995, (when I was 40), thanks to the early days of the internet, I finally realized that this whole thing was bogus, and I made the decision I was no longer going to wait for a bus that was never going to arrive. So, heartless as it sounds, my mom's death, while sad, did not "shake me to the core" as it did my sister and my brother, who keep on believing.
    In the space of 5 years, my wife has seen her aunt and her father pass, and with me, it's my mom and, last month, my aunt on my mom's side.
    It's only going to "accelerate", because, much as we would like, no one lives forever. Once you make peace with that, it's a little less (a little less) traumatic when parents pass away. But, if you are still in wide-eyed belief that "This system just CAN'T last much longer" (the sister who told me that died within five years of that statement, and its been 7 years since her death, no new system yet...), unprepared mentally for this eventuality, then I am sure the wave of deaths that are coming is going to be a real shock to deal with.
    Also, the amount of unpreparedness, with both financial and legal documents, just amazes me. My mom was better prepared than most, but there was still a lot of expensive headaches in settling her estate. In the case of my father in Law (who was not a Witness), he left a big mess that my wife's family had to straighten out, and my mother-in-law, True-Believer to the core who cared not one whit about "worldly things" like finances, got a real education in such things after her husband died. After my mom's passing, I finally got off my arse and got wills and a trust set up for me and my wife, because I don't want my kids do deal with the same crap I had to. I have been on my Dad about this as well, but, his attitude is "que sera, sera", which means I am going to have to step up for the funeral expenses when he passes. And even the "cheapest" burial is amazingly expensive where I liive. I can only imagine what other JW families must go through when this happens, since so many of them did not really put aside much for retirement or for death.

    Anyway, another funeral tomorrow for the father of someone from my peer group, and she just lost her husband (younger than me!) due to a massive heart attack. I am sure she is just reeling by now (another pioneer wife/super-elder husband power couple. Still didn't provide immunity...).

    Anyway, it's been a wild ride these past few years. And it's only beginning...

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    CAPTAIN SCHMIDEO2:

    Great post. I am a Boomer who is a longtime ‘Fader’. Time flies. However, I was raised Catholic and never entirely bought into the ‘paradise’ even if it was a nice idea. Thankfully, I had my ‘worldly’ father’s wisdom and I kept my job until retirement.

    I never agreed with the Jehovah’s Witness idea of not preparing for retirement. This ignorance extends to many other things as well, like not having insurance. But, I kept my thoughts to myself as there is no arguing with “the End is almost here”.

    I am glad you were smart enough to set up Wills/Trusts since you have family. Keep this business to yourself. You also mention that 1995 was what woke you up. It woke me up as well. Oh, there was a list of things that didn’t sit well with me. But, when I heard this, I knew my time in this phony religion was over!

    I am glad I am not around it now.. It must be miserable in congregations with people unprepared and others passing away who thought they were supposed to be in the ‘New System’ by now.. But, what can you do?.. In the last two years I have lost two old friends (not JW).. Just take one day at a time and enjoy your family and the small things in life.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The Borg imposes itself between families with their demands like shunning & dfing.

    A simple infraction,, you could lose your friends and family.

    Some small things in life like these,,,many Jws dont have due to the Borgs,horrible, nefarious policies.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Part of the orgs downfall is the end of the boomer generation.

    Lots of old people in the Kingdom Halls and many younger ones don’t have the same zeal.

    Like many businesses a lack of labour will be their downfall

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    I’ve come to suspect that Jaracz’s heavy-handed legacy is the Org’s real millstone, and the so-called “reforms” they’re trying to implement are like sticking more and more fingers into a dam’s holes.

    Eventually they’re gonna run out of fingers.

    I could be wrong.

  • Hellothere
    Hellothere

    Yeah i know they recommend writing in your testament that you gonna donate everything to watchtower. Goes completely against what bible says. Proverbs 13:22 says “A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.”

    That's why they becoming softer with df people. As soon money is involved, bible goes out the window.

  • Gorb
    Gorb

    I'm from 1970, but could have wrote the same experience.

    Better then ever, and free!

    Gorby

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    Great post. Off the top of my head, I came up with the names of almost 20 witnesses that went to the first hall I attended that are now deceased. I sure that by now there could be at least double that but I have no way of knowing. My mother-in-law just recently passed away at 102. She became a witness in the 1960s and spent the rest of her life waiting for the arrival of the kingdom that promised eternal youth no more death. Because she lived so long, she saw almost all of her close JW friends and quite a few JW family members pass away from old age or horrible disease and still no sign of Jehovah and his magic kingdom.

    I still don't understand how they can be in it so long and never catch on to the scam. Maybe they do but can't bring themselves to facing up to the consequences of admitting that they'd been duped so they just trudge along brushing all doubts aside.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    I quit;

    I think we can just chalk this up to;;;

    """" the sunk cost fallacy"""

    😏

  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    Vidiot describes WTC perfectly as trying to stop leaks in the dam with no hope of succeeding. Members watch and some still hang on.

    I recall how some supporters of Bernie Madoff were unwilling to accept that he had duped them. Regulators finally arrested him but some investors were still supportive of his ponzi scheme.

    WTC has run a multi-generational religious ponzi scheme for 145 years.

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