They don't have time for "damage control" anymore. WTBT$ is about to be permanently shut down.
Ernie Fyans, JW elder CSA abuser from "Palmer Leaks" sentenced in Maine today
by EasyPrompt 27 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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Vidiot
Tahoe - “Will damage control come in the form of claiming Religious Persecution by the ‘Satan’s System of Things’? Will they claim these as false allegations created to stumble Jehovah’s true believers in the Last Days?”
Already has.
For all the good it’s done.
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EasyPrompt
I live in Maine. Before being disfellowshipped for telling on rotten elders who are trained to cover for abuse, I was in the same circuit as one of Fyans' victims. I will not say her name so she doesn't get doxxed or something. I know a bunch of JWs who were in that Fort Kent area during the time Fyans was. All the elders and others from that time to this time who knew about what happened and didn't do ANYTHING - it makes me want to vomit. These guys are complicit for covering abuse of the worst sort. The WTBT$ can't claim "false allegations" anymore because too many people know the truth. I didn't find out until recently that my friend was one of those victims from the Palmer Leaks, and now I can't comfort her because of the stupid disfellowshipping doctrine. The JWBorg won't comfort her because they're too busy wanting to protect their "image". I HATE WTBT$. But as much as I hate them, I know Jehovah hates them even more.
(PID people, your Tower's falling down. The allegations are real. One of the victims in this case used to serve at Bethel, so did her brother-in-law. Her husband and her father-in-law are elders who still give talks at the assemblies and conventions. She is not some "fringe" person or what you consider "an apostate with an axe to grind." If these documents were not leaked, nobody in the JWBorg would have put this Ernest Fyans guy in prison. He was cruel even at the trial. The "Legal Department" at Bethel is a joke. The "Service Department" is evil. The JWBorg is so horrid to talk about "truth" and "justice" all the while refusing to protect these sheep. The blood on the hands of the "FDS" is a stench ascending to heaven and Jehovah's rage is about to sweep the WTBT$ away in response. You would be wise to find new living arrangements.)
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ScenicViewer
EasyPrompt: "WTBT$ is about to be permanently shut down."
When is this supposed to happen?
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EasyPrompt
"When is this supposed to happen?"
A soon as Jesus takes the throne in heaven. Jesus said when he takes the throne in heaven, he'll send his angels to expose all the religious hypocrites by means of the governments dissolving the religious institutions (aka destruction of Babylon the Great.) They'll be figuratively burned up, the religious institutions, and the religious leaders will be figuratively weeping and gnashing their teeth, because no "Legal Department" or "Service Department" can stop it. Bye-bye WTBT$. No more WT elders misusing their so-called "religious authority" and abusing kids and Bethel covering it up, and all the other reproachful junk associated with religious institutions.
"When is this supposed to happen?" It will be like a thief in the night, at a time when they least expect it.
You can see the storm coming. It's about to strike. Jesus said the religious leaders could interpret the signs of a storm in the sky but they were too pig headed to know the sign that their destruction was near. It's the same today. The WTBT$ (and other religious institutions) refuse to change and get rid of their nasty ways. God isn't going to protect the WTBT$ when the governments come calling. God is the one calling the governments to destroy the WTBT$.
The WTBT$ likes to take Matthew 24:45 out of context, but here is what that illustration says in context:
"On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it. Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings. But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be."
The WTBT$ thought 1914 was the time Jesus was enthroned, but they were wrong. Jesus will be enthroned at a day and hour they do not expect, and then he will come make an accounting with the religious institutions. Now is the "day" the religious leaders do not expect and now is the "hour" that they do not know. It's soon.
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EasyPrompt
The WTBT$ leaders are more addicted to money/power than to love. That's why they condone and cover up CSA. Like addicts who abuse their own body and then abuse others, it will be the figurative death of them.
Isaiah 56:10-12
"His watchmen are blind, none of them have taken note.
All of them are speechless dogs, unable to bark.
They are panting and lying down; they love to slumber.
They are dogs with a voracious appetite;
They are never satisfied.
They are shepherds who have no understanding.
They have all gone their own way;
Every last one of them seeks his own dishonest gain and says:
“Come, let me take some wine,
And let us drink our fill of alcohol.
And tomorrow will be like today, only far better!”"
Jeremiah 23:1-3
"Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares Jehovah.
"Therefore this is what Jehovah the God of Israel says against the shepherds who are shepherding my people: “You have scattered my sheep; you kept dispersing them, and you have not turned your attention to them.”
“So I will turn my attention to you because of your evil deeds,” declares Jehovah.
“Then I will gather together the remnant of my sheep from all the lands to which I have dispersed them, and I will bring them back to their pasture, and they will be fruitful and become many. And I will raise up over them shepherds who will really shepherd them. They will no longer be afraid or be terrified, and none will be missing,” declares Jehovah."
The inebriated shepherds of WTBT$ are just like the drunken guards of Babylon who left the city gates open on the night of Belshazzar's party. Though under siege, they carelessly left the gates open. It's the same today. The governments of the nations are figuratively just outside the gates of Bethel and other religious institutions, but the religious hypocrites are in denial. They don't want to believe their party will end. They're in for a rude awakening. When the hour of destruction/dissolution comes on the so-called "Guardians Of Doctrine" at WTBT$, all their JW lovers will say: "Who knew?"
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ScenicViewer
I asked, When is this supposed to happen?
EasyPrompt replied,
"A soon as Jesus takes the throne in heaven."
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"It will be like a thief in the night, at a time when they least expect it."
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"the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it."
Those replies are a bit vague for me. Can you be more specific? Will the Watchtower Organization be gone in a year? In 10 years? In 50 years?
You keep implying that it will happen very soon, but I would like you to be more specific about when, if you can.
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EasyPrompt
If I knew the exact time, I would tell you, but no one on earth knows that.
I do know that the WTBT$ will be "alive" when it is torn down. It won't fizzle out and fade away. It will still be operating when it is shut down. (Revelation 18)
I also know when I hear thunder near that the storm is close. I don't know how close because I don't "measure" how close the storm is, but if I look outside and I see the storm clouds and hear the thunder, I know to "get out of Dodge" so-to-speak.
Anybody who sees the direction the governments are going as regards getting sick of religious hypocrisy, the exposure of the CSA stuff, Norway, Russia, Japan, etc...you can hear the "thunder" and see the "lightning" approaching. It's soon. It's not "years" away. It's soon.
1 Kings 18:41-46
"E·liʹjah now said to Aʹhab: “Go up, eat and drink, for there is the sound of a heavy downpour.” So Aʹhab went up to eat and drink, while E·liʹjah went up to the top of Carʹmel and crouched on the ground, keeping his face between his knees. Then he said to his attendant: “Go up, please, and look toward the sea.” So he went up and looked and said: “There is nothing at all.” Seven times E·liʹjah said, “Go back.” The seventh time his attendant said: “Look! There is a small cloud like a man’s hand ascending out of the sea.” He now said: “Go, say to Aʹhab, ‘Hitch up the chariot! Go down so that the downpour may not detain you!’” Meanwhile, the sky grew dark with clouds, the wind blew, and a heavy downpour fell; and Aʹhab kept riding and made his way to Jezʹre·el. But the hand of Jehovah came on E·liʹjah, and he wrapped his garment around his hips and ran ahead of Aʹhab all the way to Jezʹre·el."
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ScenicViewer
Your analogy of hearing thunder and knowing that a storm is close has nothing to do with the end of Watchtower.
You go on to say 'it's not years away.' Fine. You say nobody can know when it will be for sure, but if you know it's not years away, then is it then just months away?
And if we go 5 more years from now, and Watchtower still exists, will you feel a need to rethink your ideas?
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EasyPrompt
It's not my analogy. It's from God's Word. It's not years away. When you can hear the thunder, the storm is not years away.
2 Thessalonians 2:6,7
"And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time. True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way. Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence."
The angels have been acting as a restraint, holding back the winds of that storm. The fact that the lawless ones have been revealed, in all the religious institutions, shows it is the time for the angels acting as a restraint to let go of the winds.
Revelation 7:1
"After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, so that no wind could blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree."
Revelation 9:14
"Untie the four angels who are bound at the great river Eu·phraʹtes.”
The time for the destruction of "Babylon the Great" is here. WTBT$ is part of Babylon the Great. Can't you hear the howling of the wind? It's not years away.