Putin was almost killed.

by liam 9 Replies latest social current

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  liam

  If you have been seeing the World News, you probably aware that Zelensky launch a drown attack on Putin and almost killed him.

  Putin lost it and hit Ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of war so far, killing not only soldiers by many civilians.

  Even Trump has said Putin has changed. "I don't know what has happen to Putin, and I don't like it at all"

  It's not the same Putin he knew just a few days ago. The concern now is that Zelensky doesn't seem to care if he starts a WW3 and takes the entire world with him.

  The consensus is that if Putin had been killed, Russia would have launched Nuclear Bombs and wiped Ukraine. Then Europe would have launched Nukes at Russia,

  Knowing this can happened, Germany is telling Ukraine to launch Missiles to Russia as soon as possible.
  

  And that would be enough to tip the scale with India/Pakistan, Israel/Gaza(Iran), China/Taiwan

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdiO-vM8sg4
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  Anony Mous

  Europe firing nukes? LOL. They would rather have Ukraine, Poland and Hungary run over than stop getting Russian oil. Europe would freeze to death without Russia, even if you somehow got all of Southern Europe to go along with a war in “the North” they are still outmanned by the Russians, and the majority of reservist personnel in Europe hasn’t ever touched a gun, even the “active” military only trains at best with sidearms or single action rifles because “big guns are scary”. Luckily for Europe, Germany, Finland and the Swiss are ‘properly’ trained although Germany has been limited in capacity after WW2, in the end it would probably be 100k Americans and 100k Europeans vs 2-5M Russians and Chinese IF it ever came to an all out shooting war rather than a proxy war over a (very) small area of Ukraine.
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  liam

  Hope you're right Anony Mous.

  I've lost confidence in humans. They do stupid things when you least expect.

  For example;

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iud0sNi23rE
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  Balaamsass2

  I googled the subject.

  It looks like Putin and Zelinsky have each made multiple assassination attempts on each other during the war.

  Nothing much this week from reputable sources. Guys repeating Hindustan Times or the Sun from mom's basement, don't worry me.

  Too bad. Just think of how much misery could have been prevented with an early assassination of Hitler.
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  Anony Mous

  @Balaamsass: an early assassination of Hitler would have resulted in Goebbels or a more military capable general coming to power. Given the pact between Stalin and Hitler, assume a slightly more military mind decided against crossing the Soviets and focus on the Western front. Forget about Normandy, the only reason that succeeded is because all resources were East. Look at earlier attempts by the Allies to land in Italy.

  With such comments you clearly do not understand history, Hitler was elected, people wanted change, people wanted to try this newfangled nationalist socialism, the run up to Hitler was WW1 and globalist socialists attempting to secure peace by loading Germany with debt, reparations and paper promises for hundreds of years of “oppression” in Europe (which the enforcers like France and England were equally guilty of). Sounds familiar?

  Without Hitler, you would have still gotten German domination in some way because Germany has always had the resources and their neighbors were weak, you would’ve likely ended up with an overtly anti-Semitic EU-like entity ran by the Germans in 1930 rather than the subtly anti-Semitic EU run by the Germans in 1999.
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  liam

  Balaamsass2
  

  I googled the subject.

  It looks like Putin and Zelinsky have each made multiple assassination attempts on each other during the war.

  Yes, I'm aware of that. But all those assassination attempts failed. So we'll never know what would of happened if one of them succeeded.

  The thing is, humans have a way of doing the irrational.

  Things were so heated up between nations back in the early 1900s that all it took was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand on June 28, 1914, and that event was all that was needed to triggered World War I, leading Austria-Hungary to declare war on Serbia and escalating into a larger conflict involving multiple nations.

  This act of violence, (The Assassination) is often cited as the immediate catalyst for the war.

  The World situation right now; (Russia /Ukraine, India/Pakistan, Israel/Gaza(Iran), China/Taiwan, Right/left, Woke/Non woke, Illegal immigrants/citizens..........is like 100 barrels of gasoline dumped on the bottom floor of a huge apartment building, just waiting for some idiot to light a cigarette in the middle of the floor.
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  hoser

  July 14 2024

  a few centimeters would have definitely changed where we are today for better or worse depending on who you are and where you stand.

  Funny this event has pretty much disappeared off the radar.

  Did they ever come up with a motive or were there others acting behind the scenes?
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  Anony Mous

  The fact is that if either party really wanted, they could wipe the other leader out. A near-miss is often calculated to either scare the other or drum up support through propaganda.

  At this point, even citizens have sufficient potential access to OSINT to pinpoint most leaders of most countries to a scary degree of accuracy between news and cell phone signals and a drone capable of carrying a kg of explosives isn’t expensive either, any actor with $100k-1M worth of resources (and people) could probably accurately assassinate Putin, Zelensky, Khomeini and most lower level politicians.
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  notsurewheretogo

  Consensus?

  "The consensus is that if Putin had been killed, Russia would have launched Nuclear Bombs and wiped Ukraine. Then Europe would have launched Nukes at Russia,"

  Where are your sources for that? Because it is equally plausible Russia abandon the war post Putin.
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  slimboyfat

  What is the evidence Russians don’t support Putin’s war in Ukraine? From what I gather the voices of opposition to Putin inside Russia consist mainly of folk who think Putin isn’t being hard enough or should have acted earlier to prevent NATO expansion and western control of Ukraine. If Putin is removed, there is every possibility he would be replaced by somebody more hawkish and less stable than he is.

  One point I think illustrates just how skewed western perception of Russian public opinion involves the fact that Alexei Navalny was held up in the west as a good democratic alternative to Putin. Yet even Navalny supported Russian annexation of Crimea and would never give it back to Ukraine. He was a right wing nationalist who opposed Putin mainly on corruption grounds. That’s how far Russian opinion is away from western understanding of it - even the guy they turned into a hero fully supported Russia keeping Crimea. How is that compatible with western demands or how is that significantly better than Putin from a western viewpoint? It was never explained, because it doesn’t make any sense. The goal of the US was to weaken Russia and they’ll use any tool at their disposal including lionising so called dissidents who actually agree with Putin or in some cases are even more hard line than he is.