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Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?
by minimus 56 Replies latest jw friends
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SonoftheTrinity
As wicked as it sounds I would totally understand the idea of internally deporting Jehovah's Witnesses to a territory all their own, in order to give them the autonomy they need to stop blaming the World. If their religion is so perfect then if they were forced to shift their focus from witnessing to and blaming nonbelievers they could make their territory a paradise on earth.
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OnTheWayOut
I have mixed feelings on bans and outlawing religions. Generally, I support Russia's decisions on banning JW's or any country that bans cults that suppress independent thinking. But the line is difficult to draw.
At the same time, it feeds their persecution complex at the same time.
Better to just tax all religions as the businesses they are. That might keep upstart cults from forming.
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waton
no. I would make them fork over their ill gotten gain, free labour, no taxes , but reap benefits, -- to those that toiled, serving the lie.
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never a jw
No, I wouldn't. Just treat them the way they deserve to be treated. Make them pay taxes for income and property. I would also force them to pay salaries and benefits to the "volunteers". They offer nothing to society. They should be taxed as a business.
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pbrow
on the way out...
you support any government's banning ideas because the people who hold those ideas suppress independent thinking.
Ironic
pbrow
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Wakanda
I used to think banning was a good idea because of the atrocities of human sacrifice to a blood doctrine, shunning, and turning a blind eye to child abuse. However, then I thought about my fore fathers, a few of whom were Jdubs under ban. One of them thought is was exciting to join a religion under ban! The stories about this time were told over and over and over. The ban and hatred of the religious leaders promoting it is one of the reasons they never woke up. I agree with taxing the crap out of them, outlawing shunning, safeguarding whistle blowers, and funding spies to ensure compliance. Also, teaching children how to recognize logical fallacies, emotional control, limiting information, thought control, etc.
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LisaRose
I don't believe you can outlaw beliefs, it's just counter productive, it usually had the effect of making people more determined.
I do wish we were better at teaching critical thinking skills in schools, because teaching young JWs to think and question their beliefs will enable them to more easily break free. Sadly I dont think you can do much for the adults.
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Finkelstein
Speaking for myself, I think I was always a person who had critical thinking ingrained in me.
I remember asking questions to my parents about matters pertaining to god using the WTS and no other Christian organization yet the WTS created so many disingenuous lies ie. 1975 .
The answer came to me eventfully that the WTS lied so much because it wanted to attract attention to the literature it published.
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Finkelstein
I also think all religions are dangerous to a certain extent with some more than others and I do think the JWS is one of those based upon its shunning polices, which has broken up millions of families over the years.
It is a very oppressive and highly controlling religious organization, which has killed thousands over its medical regulations and restrictions.