by Sugar Shane 104 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Mean mr mustard isn't it true that Gottfredson's research was funded by the Pioneer fund? I'm fact most of the experts you cite have ties to the Pioneer Fund don't they?
Gottfredson has received research grants worth $267,000 from the Pioneer Fund, an organization which has been described as "racist" and "white supremacist".
@recovering:
I don’t know. I’m sure they are all neo-nazi white racists and we should disregard everything they say, right?
Oh look you quoted the part of Wikipedia that says it’s a neo-nazi organization, but not the responses to the criticisms.
Good Lord
Yes Data dog that is nailing it on the head. Intelligence is not as easy to quantify as some people think.
Yeah, it’s not like it’s been a developed field of research for over 100 years or anything.
Perhaps I should Quote The Pioneer Fund themselves? Here is a quote from the funds Incorporation documents. This is their primary mission as described by whom.? That's right themselves.
The 1937 incorporation documents of the Pioneer Fund list two purposes. The first, modeled on the Nazi Lebensborn breeding program,[14] was aimed at encouraging the propagation of those "descended predominantly from white persons who settled in the original thirteen states prior to the adoption of the Constitution of the United States and/or from related stocks, or to classes of children, the majority of whom are deemed to be so descended". Its second purpose was to support academic research and the "dissemination of information, into the 'problem of heredity and eugenics'" and "the problems of race betterment".
The recipients of the grant money defending their cash cow does not negate the fact that the fund has a long history and vested interest in promoting the Pioneer Funds self stated agenda.
follow the money .
an organization which has been described as "racist" and "white supremacist"
Yeah, and at this point e-v-e-r-y-b-o-d-y has been described as that so it carries zero weight.
This is their primary mission as described by whom.? That's right themselves. The 1937 incorporation documents of the Pioneer Fund list two purposes ...
Can we list the goals and ideals of the Democratic party of 1937?
When I was pursuing my education degree I found Intelligence described as the ability to more and more closely associate ideas. I think that covers all of the definitions of intelligence. It covers social skills, survival skills, academic skills.
Without question an IQ test can indicate intelligence, but unless you're joining MENSA, it does not indicate much. For instance, if it takes you ten days to figure out a problem and it takes your friend ten minutes, are you less intelligent? You figured it out, right? Maybe it was a type of problem you'd never encountered before. Next time you see a similar problem, you will have experience to guide you. It will not take you as long to reach a solution.
Being quick witted may be nice, but alone it does not mean you're a superior human. Behavior is what matters. A misbehaving genius is a fool. An mentally under-performing but kind-hearted person is his superior.
I found Intelligence described as the ability to more and more closely associate ideas. I think that covers all of the definitions of intelligence. It covers social skills, survival skills, academic skills.—vienne
This struck me as a useful description. Then l read on and this struck me too. Thanks.
Being quick witted may be nice, but alone it does not mean you're a superior human. Behavior is what matters. A misbehaving genius is a fool. An mentally under-performing but kind-hearted person is his superior.
@recovering: Ok, ok. I’ll look over your sources and check them out. I’ll get back to you on it. You are right Linda did take money from the Pioneer fund in 1994.
If the Pioneer fund, as of 1994 was still after those same goals, I imagine they were somewhat disappointed when her work showed that, on average, certain Jews and Asians score much higher than whites. I’m sure that’s all part of plan though, right?
...but alone it does not mean you're a superior human.
None of this means you are a superior human. And that is the real issue, isn’t it? The very hint of a topic like this quickly degrades into talk of “superior” vs “inferior”. And from there, we are just a hop, skip, and a jump to concentration camps. Right?
Wrong. Pointing out IQ differences between groups - not just races, but counties, sexes (or is it genders?) - is not to declare one group as superior over another. It’s to actually help the disadvantaged.
Look, when you hear that the average IQ of Haiti is 67, what does that say to you? What does that imply?
Simon have at it. Go ahead and discredit Democrats if you want ,as I stated before I am a moderate Republican.
Mean Mr Mustard they still have the same basic goals up to this day.
