Why do they want to kill all the White People?

by liam 22 Replies latest social current

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  Anony Mous

  The GAA had provisions for land owned prior to 1950, it had exceptions for servants, mining, hospitals and there was a visitation period of 90 days and did not apply to prior designated (in the 1930s) lands for various tribes. That is what the law said, there was no provision for expropriation, land could not be transferred to blacks, but could also not be forcibly transferred to the state.

  It displaced primarily poor people that had moved to the cities, basically moved the slums from the inside to the outside. But that happens today just as well in many countries.
  

  The law you quoted that is being implemented shows clearly that equity (aka DEI or perceived race benefit) is the measure, not land value, and it clearly states that land can be expropriated under the (neo-Marxist) equity doctrine.

  The nil compensation also has many ways out: get chased of your land, or the government deems its value to be lower than their interest in race based equity - poof goes your property. There is nothing in there as far as modern legal parlance that goes to the fair and marketable value of the land.

  Not for nothing that literally tens of thousands of whites and blacks have left the country. Just because Apartheid was bad 75 years ago doesn’t mean you can just “take back” what you perceived to have lost. Reparations are always bad, as you admit is happening under the doctrine that blacks “lost” land because they couldn’t trade for it and somehow “that’s the only thing they’re forcibly taking back”. It also doesn’t justify the slaughter and rape which has been independently verified to be on the order of a genocide and of that you can actually find evidence.

  It also doesn’t explain how the new generations of blacks and the country under ANC in general is doing even worse than before, much of the confiscated lands are laying fallow and the country is already facing food and water shortages as the original farmers are gone and the new farmers have no clue and instead move back to the city for work (similar to what happened in the Holodomor - Stalin killed the Ukrainians, sent a bunch of Russians and surprise - they can’t produce your food). At some point, your failings are your own. Mandela (who was a Marxist) and his party (officially nationalist socialists) demonstrated they are thugs and clueless when it comes to running a country.
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  slimboyfat

  It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the distortion of the history of South Africa is in the service of distorting current apartheid in Israel and Palestine. For years the outrage from supporters of Israel was, “how dare you compare us to apartheid South Africa”. Is this now morphing into, “yeah well what was so bad about apartheid South Africa anyway! It was the end of apartheid that was the problem!” A rather unexpected turn (to me at least) if so. And all because South Africa had the temerity to call out genocide when they saw it. The trouble for Israel is that South Africa is no longer the only country calling out the obvious as conditions and starvation in Gaza get worse and worse.
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  Earnest

  Anony Mous : That is what the law said, there was no provision for expropriation, land could not be transferred to blacks, but could also not be forcibly transferred to the state.

  Of course there were provisions for expropriation, e.g. Expropriation Act 1975. But the apartheid state didn't need to expropriate land, they just declared it a white group area and all other races had to move.

  Anony Mous : It displaced primarily poor people that had moved to the cities

  It displaced everyone who was not white - poor, middle-class or wealthy.

  Anony Mous : The law you quoted that is being implemented shows clearly that equity (aka DEI or perceived race benefit) is the measure, not land value

  The law says that the amount of compensation must reflect relevant circumstances including (Section 25 (3)) :

  (a) the current use of the property;
  (b) the history of the acquisition and use of the property;
  (c) the market value of the property;
  (d) the extent of direct state investment and subsidy in the acquisition and
  beneficial capital improvement of the property; and
  (e) the purpose of the expropriation

  Anony Mous : Reparations are always bad...

  Why?

  Anony Mous : It also doesn’t justify the slaughter and rape which has been independently verified to be on the order of a genocide and of that you can actually find evidence.

  It didn't occur to me that the reason the South African government is accused of genocide is because of the current situation in Gaza and their "temerity to call out genocide when they saw it". Quite so. There is a lot of crime in South Africa which is why many have left and why farmers have been targeted as they are perceived as being wealthy and isolated i.e. easy prey. But to speak of genocide as if deaths are authorised by the government, as they are in Gaza, is simply self-serving nonsense.