ROTFL Mike!!!
This is a very strange question, but I have to ask...
by Country Girl 22 Replies latest jw friends
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La Capra
If you are really interested in this topic, I would recommend researching "sex and marriage" in terms of Orthodox Judaism. I can't format paragraphs, so if I posted a bit of a treatise on it here, most wouldn't read it. Most of the reserach I read relates this to the woman "touching death" due to the potential for life that was lost. Anyone who had contact with dead people also suffered this "cutting off" but it was cured by proper bathing (called the mikveh). The tradition of the mikveh is quite fascinating and still practiced by most practicing orthodox couples, many consevative couples and lately more and more reform jews are reinstating this practice into their marriages. Shoshana
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Country Girl
Thanks Blondie for that wonderful summation of the JW's stance on this issue. But, like Frannie says, it seems that they acknowledge only some of the Mosaic laws, while still eating shellfish and pork. Go figure <shrug>. Also, thanks all for the insightful comments.
That seems too bad that such a normal, physical event is viewed with such distaste, horror, and shame. Most girls look on their first menstrual period as an exciting entrance into the world of the adult woman. It seems later it becomes to be viewed as a dirty, messy, shameful secret, while men's ejaculate is not commonly thought of with such disgust. I don't know.. may not be true, but it seems like it.
Anyway, I found these two interesting articles on the subject:
http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/period.htm
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/news/20020430023512_health_news.shtml
CG
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peacefulpete
The matter had nothing to do with health. This is a modern western attempt to legitimize ancient taboos like what we were led to believe about the law against pork. ( which was inherited from the Syrian/Palestinian cult of Adonis aka Adonai whose prohibition of pork for mythic reasons predates the Jews by a thousand years. The Hebrews even using the name for their god.) Nothing in the verses suggest a health issue. And as what shown by that last article posted, it's not, at least not more than wiping your butt the wrong direction (which YHWH was silent about). The issue was ritual. The Jews likely inherited atheir taboo about blood symbolizing "soul" from the Persians whose prohibition mirrors the Jew's. Any "god" that enforced the death penalty to lessen the risk of bladder infections would have to be the most unjust character imaginable.
BTW Aren't mates to be considerate during any time of the month? Is there ever an appropriate time to be demanding as the WTs quoted imply? Isn't it merely masked male dominance to suggest the male should not be demanding of sex DURING THIS TIME. -
blondie
It seems later it becomes to be viewed as a dirty, messy, shameful secret, while men's ejaculate is not commonly thought of with such disgust
I didn't put that information in, Country Girl, but under the Law, a man was considered unclean if he ejaculated.
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Country Girl
I was speaking more in the way of the Society's viewpoints on it, and how they seem to "pick and choose" parts of the Mosaic law to render their views as truth, while ignoring others, ignoring that it was all covered over with the New Covenant. Especially the ones that seem to degrade and defile one half of the population on the Earth. <growl>
The more I have read on this issue this morning, the more I have seen that the only health drawback with relations during the menstrual cycle would be just that it provides another vehicle to carrying a disease through the exchange of bodily fluids, and blood is a rich medium in which bacteria can grow. However, it seems to me if it is a clean, monogamous couple in good health, and/or a healthy couple using safe sex methods, it would be just fine if one can deal with the mess!
Maybe those Israelites back then weren't as hygenically-conscious, or there were more diseases they could get. I don't know. Just my two cents. I don't know much about the hygiene back then. Heh.
CG
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blondie
CG, I figure it is between the man and the woman. If it is a health matter, they could check with a doctor to see if that is true. I was merely reporting what the WTS says. It has never been an issue with us because I no long had a menstrual cycle when I got married.
Blondie
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Sassy
I always love how some of the law is followed.. and some is not. How does one ever know when they are doing what is right unless you abstain from everything.
and they don't believe in oral sex, so it isnt like a woman can't please her man another way according to the rules either.
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Elsewhere
One of them told me that because there is "blood" it is against God's law
That would only apply if he went down south for a meal.
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Country Girl
A new twist on Tex-Mex? Enchiladas, with a bloody mary! Yummm... <slaps Elsewhere>
CG