July 2023 Study Watchtower - Great Tribulation is coming soooooooooooooon!

by BoogerMan 33 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    Is this the "great tribulation" which Jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt Christian congregations worldwide, (Revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century G.T. which he said would never occur again? (Matthew 24:21)

    Are You Ready for the Great Tribulation? “The great tribulation will soon begin..”

    Study Watchtower July 2023 - p. 4 par. 10, “We too can show compassion today when we learn that fellow worshippers have been affected by a disaster. We readily respond—perhaps by asking the elders if we can assist on a project..by donating to the worldwide work ”

    p.s. When the G.T. starts, forget about hiding in your basements or running off into forests - the G.B. wants you to gather together in your local KH - makes it easier for the JW haters to find all of their victims!

    Par. 16 - (Isa. 26: 20) "It seems that those words also apply to us who will face the great tribulation. The “inner rooms” may refer to our congregations."

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice
    BM - by donating to the worldwide work

    How typical of them to slip that in.

    ...anyway, if they say it's coming soon(tm), we'd better go back to the cult. After all, when were they ever wrong about the end(tm)?

  • enoughisenough
    enoughisenough

    I have thought about the KH being the interior rooms...how stupid! Look at the lock downs...they shut the doors to the KH and told everyone to stay home. Now I do have a suspicious mind beings I have been declared "crackpot" on this forum, I will share: If one accepts that there are hidden evil men who are actually running the org behind the scenes whose goal is mass depopulation, what better way to help execute that plan than to have their puppets gather the useless eaters into convenience places-they round themselves up! ( so beware if the call goes out for everyone to be sure to be at the KHs ) While I am at this subject, I always thought the scene of the ones hiding in the basement rather stupid too. They show up with their electronic devices to HIDE!...with built in trackers! oxymoron!

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    I think they are using the 'inner room' analogy as being a member of the congregation. The message is that you will be 'safe' only if you are a member in good standing. The usual inside, outside metaphor. Fear of being 'outside' is a powerful means of control.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    To be fair, the org says "inner rooms" relates to congregations not kingdom halls. It doesn't mean that everyone will be expected to physically go to a hall to hide.

    That couldn't be right, as with all the hall closures in recent years, it's often necessary for witnesses to travel long distances to the nearest hall, and also the fact that most halls are not big enough to hold all the local witnesses together. For example, where I attend we have seating for maybe 200 people max, but multiple congregations meet there probably totalling about 400 people. How could they all come together in the one hall without attracting attention of the authorities, and without causing crowding problems? It causes enough hassle with the neighbours as it is on Memorial night with all the crowding in and out!

    The NWT parallels the "inner rooms" verse with Exodus 12:22,23 where the angel passes over Egypt and strikes the firstborn while the Jews hide in their homes with the doorposts daubed with animal blood, and that WT paragraph itself says: "Consider what Jehovah instructed his people to do when ancient Babylon was attacked..." Again, that was a situation where the people were distributed in their own homes and places, not all gathered in one location. One old WT from 2009 said: "This prophecy may have had its first fulfillment in 539 B.C.E. when the Medes and the Persians conquered Babylon. Upon entering Babylon, Cyrus the Persian apparently commanded everyone to stay indoors because his soldiers were ordered to execute any found out-of-doors."

    Also, it contradicts their portrayals in the bunker videos of 1) the authorities probably closing down halls and 2) witnesses taking refuge in private basements or attics.

    As enoughisenough says, their actions during lockdown went completely contrary to the idea of congregations coming together, and even caused some to wonder if isolation at home would be a fulfillment of going to "interior rooms". That would seem to make more sense if it happens at all, but I suspect the org doesn't want to say that in case it encourages more to stay at home and just connect on zoom, so instead they imply congregations should be "together", despite their depictions showing the opposite (only small groups in private rooms).

    A case of putting their own organisational desires ahead of what the scriptures actually suggest? If so, that wouldn't be unusual.

  • Hellothere
    Hellothere

    Read same article back in the 80s. It's an old article. Inner rooms could " maeby" be congregations. That was written longe before halls started being sold. They must do update on article they study. The idea was everyone was gonna hide local Hall. But many are sold.

  • enoughisenough
    enoughisenough

    I remember thinking it was the local Hall...like don't dare miss a meeting for you may be on the outside when you needed to be inside. It never made sense! ( but then, what does really make sense once you get outside and look behind the curtain.?) This stood out in the reproduced paragraph...to ask the elders about sending money to the org to help is case of disaster. I used to think the society was really interested in helping people when disaster happens-now I see them as opportunistic to get hold of homeowner's insurances benefits while the brothers volunteer to do the grunt work , clean up and even pay for some of the materials. It really is ugly and corrupt behind the curtain, while the rank and file are trying to be kind.

  • Lee Marsh
    Lee Marsh

    The Great Tribulation is coming.... soon. AGAIN.

    In the 70s we were told to go to our book study location. There we would get all the information we needed to go hide "in the mountain caves" Well they got rid of the book study arrangement a long time ago.

    I got pregnant at the end of 71. The baby was due in May 72. When I told my mother, she yelled at me that this was no time to have babies. Now I would have a baby to drag with me when we had to escape in 1975. The baby would NEVER go to school in this system of things.

    Yup. She went to school, grew up, got married, had 3 kids. They went to school and one is now married with 2 kids. The other are working and in college.

    I would have missed out on being a mother, grandmother and now great grandmother if I had listened.

    I also would have missed out on a college and university education and a career that I loved.

    I would have missed out on meeting so many of you either online or in real life.

    For those still in:

    DON'T LISTEN TO THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHEN ONE THING FAILS THEY JUST KEEP DELETING THE PAST AND STARTING OVER AGAIN. There is a reason they want all the old publications disposed of. They show the errors of the past just keep happening over and over and over again.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    LEE MARSH:

    Your story is interesting and thank God you never listened to anybody and had your baby - and grandchildren, etc. Thankfully, you had your college education and the career you wanted.

    I agree that you cannot state enough that nobody should listen to them! By them, we mean both the religion and the busybody enforcer people in the congregation. Unfortunately, the desire to be liked and accepted is strong and too many fall for it! Thankfully we didn’t.

    I am eternally grateful I never listened or paid any heed to what anybody said there.. If I had, I would not be Retired today. Very sobering. The religion and those busybody people would certainly not be supporting me now!! Believe me, this was a life lesson learned!

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    I just cannot believe this!!!

    You mean, they're back at again???? GT soon,soon,soon? .

    And they keep building? Building? Building?

    The cognitive dissonance must be mind-blowing!!

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