August issue is now up on JW.com

by ozziepost 22 Replies latest jw experiences

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Just a heads up that the English version with the changed cover is now up on JW.com.

    I haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time I’m looking forward to people’s insights.

    In the meantime I must find a red 🍷

    Cheers,

    Ozzie (of the ‘Is he still here?’ Class )

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    OK as I anticipated the Borgmeisters, using a gross error of Bible scholarship, have sought to portray their treatment of “removed ones” as being “Bible based”.

    Bible scholars agree that of all the letters that the apostle Paul wrote to the church in Corinth, just two remain and we know them as 1 Corinthians and 2 Corinthians.

    We know there was definitely one written after 1 Corinthians that we do not have. It’s referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:3,4 and was written from Ephesus but unfortunately it has not survived.

    From this knowledge we have no basis for claiming (as the Watchtower does) that the man referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 was the guy whose conduct Paul addressed in 1 Corinthians.

    The Watchtower has long claimed, and wrongly, the opposite. So much for being Bible teachers and “true christians”!

    So when the gullible read the Study 33 article, they may be drawn into a land completely alien to what was the reality of the time. Drawing false parallels and overlain with a twenty-first century Jehovah’s Witness culture and terminology, paragraph 8 is based on a false premise and paragraph 9 is pure conjecture.

    ozzie

  • FragrantAddendum
    FragrantAddendum

    wt leaders are apostates in the true sense of the word

    they are phony macaronis, imposters

    https://youtu.be/9nrb2jAZ9B4

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    To me, the most interesting article was the last one.

    From what I see, they won't disfellowship as much as before, and when they do, it will be for shorter periods, provided the sinner stops sinning and expresses the desire to return.

    However, people wanting to leave the religion will be completely shunned, as has been the case since the 1980s—no changes there. It’s still very much a cult.

    Notice that when they mention apostates, they write: "apostates and others who actively promote false teachings and wrong conduct." The definition of an apostate is not "those actively promoting..." It is merely what any dictionary will tell you: "a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle." In other words, people who no longer want to be considered Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    According to that article, apostates are comparable to child molesters/abusers and those who scheme to end a marriage—in other words, the scum of the earth. So, there you have it: you can't leave. They will shun you.

    I don't see how this is supposed to soften their position with governments that condemn them for this. All they did is soften their position on sinners.

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

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  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    I don't see how this is supposed to soften their position with governments that condemn them for this. All they did is soften their position on sinners

    Let's hope that it fails to change the opinions of said government officials.

  • FragrantAddendum
    FragrantAddendum

    wt didn't really change anything of substance

    they're just re-whitewashing the outside of the cup

    they have their "written law" and then they have their "oral law"

    (they're pharisees)

    they'll still have secret meetings and decided illegally who to shun

    it's the wt-way

    doing things just for looks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO_j2vUrBm0

  • blondie
    blondie

    "whitewashing the outside of the cup" good analogy from their own bible.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Well, I went on WOL just now, and I can't find it on the list of current WTS, jumps from July to September 2024. I am not looking in the right place?

  • dropoffyourkeylee
    dropoffyourkeylee

    I think it will be more critical to see the wording of the Shepherd's book when it is revised, and how it is interpreted by the elders, and commented/enforced by the CO's visit.

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