Gosh! These Dubs Are SO Charitable!

by Englishman 10 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Anyone can look up any UK congregation of JW's on the Charity Commissions own website.

    This is a random shot featuring one of the Wolverhampton congregations:

    Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

    Main Charity 1065214Click link for more details

    WOLVERHAMPTON, BUSHBURY CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Working Name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
    WOLVERHAMPTON BUSHBURY CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Charity Correspondent DAVID COLWELL
    93 NEWBOLDS ROAD
    WOLVERHAMPTON
    WV10 0SETelephone 01902 683286Governing Document CONSTITUTION ADOPTED ON THE 27 MAY 1997 Objects THE PRACTICE AND ADVANCEMENT OF CHRISTIANITY FOUNDED ON THE HOLY BIBLE, AS UNDERSTOOD BY THE DENOMINATION OF CHRISTIANS KNOWN AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, INCLUDING THE PREACHING OF THE GOOD NEWS OF GOD'S KINGDOM BY JESUS CHRIST WITHIN THE CONGREGATION AREA AND THE HOLDING OF MEETINGS.Area of Benefit WOLVERHAMPTON, BUSHBURY, FORDHOUSES, PENDEFORD, COVEN, OXLEY Area of Operation Charity Operates in locations in England and Wales
    STAFFORDSHIRE
    WEST MIDLANDSRegistration History 31 Oct 1997 RegisteredClassification What Religious activitiesWho Other charities/Voluntary bodies
    General public/MankindHow Provides human resource(eg staff/volunteers)
    Provides buildings/facilities/open space
    Provides services(eg care/counselling)


    Mailing & Submissions
    Mailing
    Cycle
    Financial Year Annual Return Accounts
    Received
    Start End Issued Received
    AR6 01 Apr 1996 31 Mar 1997 10 Mar 1998 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR7 01 Apr 1997 31 Mar 1998 02 Jul 1998 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR8 01 Apr 1998 31 Mar 1999 22 Jul 1999 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR00 01 Apr 1999 31 Mar 2000 12 Oct 2000 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR01 01 Apr 2000 31 Mar 2001 03 Aug 2001 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR02 01 Apr 2001 31 Mar 2002 08 Jul 2002 Below Threshold Below Threshold
    AR03 01 Apr 2002(estimated) 31 Mar 2003(estimated) 01 Sep 2003

    Financial History
    Financial Year Start Financial Year End Gross Income Total Expenditure
    01 Apr 1996 31 Mar 1997 £8,829 £8,600
    01 Apr 1997 31 Mar 1998 £6,468 £6,548
    01 Apr 1998 31 Mar 1999 £4,313 £4,062
    01 Apr 1999 31 Mar 2000 £5,878 £5,884
    01 Apr 2000 31 Mar 2001 £4,675 £2,749
    01 Apr 2001 31 Mar 2002 £4,364 £3,304

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    If we now look back at the highlighted What, Who and How section above we can check what the Charity commission is referring to by these terms. They are defined as follows:

    Classification
    This is a system of classifying charities by reference to their purposes (what), beneficiaries (who) and method of operation (how). The Commission started to collect this information by asking charities to classify themselves during 2000. Charities are asked to check their classification every year. Many charities have not yet specified a classification for themselves.

    So now we can see that this congregation is attempting to promote religious activities. (The What)

    The beneficiaries of these activities are: Other charities / Voluntary bodies / General Public / Mankind. (The Who.)

    The way in which these people will benefit is via these methods of operation: Provides human resource(eg staff/volunteers)
    Provides buildings/facilities/open space
    Provides services(eg care/counselling
    ) (The How).

    So there you go. Your local KH is there to promote religious activities that benefit other charities, voluntary bodies, the general public and the rest of mankind. They will do that using staff and volunteers using their buildings, facilties and open spaces to provide services in both care and counselling.

    OK, I'm (as a member of the general public) off to the KH to get some psychiatric counselling and a free lunch. Then I shall play soccer on their open spaces after which I shall have a shower using their facilities. Then I shall let them care for me over the Christmas holiday.

    Hope they have a turkey!

    Englishman.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Eman,

    Perhaps we got it wrong...when they say they are a charity, perhaps it means they are in the "we need charity" class!! Just look at how little charity monies are received and dispensed "to the needy".

    Cheers, OzzieCheers 2

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    Provides buildings/facilities/open space
    Shall we try and rent the KH , we could have an apostafest

  • Maverick
    Maverick

    E-man............Your a man after my own heart! I should pass out flyers telling all the homeless people to come to the K-hall to use the bathrooms and wash up! Maverick

  • greatteacher
    greatteacher

    Interesting information!
    We know that the WTS is not charitable and it encourages its members to not be charitable because it offers an "everlasting solution." What insane reasoning!

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    Good idea, Angharad! Yes, lets rent a KH for the next apostafest!

    *we'll put our donation for the rent in the contribution box!* NOT! LOLOLOLOL

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    If I read it right, the Gross income declared for year 1996/97 was £8829

    for year 2001/02 was £4364

    I guess that may be total contributions, It seems high for just the Deed of Covenant money, but eitherway it is an alarming slide. Perhaps they need a stirring Service Meeting talk from Secretary, Bro. Colwell, on the subject of Christian giving . "God loves a cheerful giver"!!

  • shamus
    shamus

    An apostafest in a kindumb hall would be the best... I would put up crosses and pentagrams, and wear vintage "demonic" clothing, listen to debased music, and perform several animal sacrifices to baal... er, I mean, just hang out and have a bbq.

  • gumby
    gumby
    Just look at how little charity monies are received and dispensed "to the needy

    Exactly Ozzie.

    I remember a faithful sister at the hall who was in poor health, pioneered since the flood, worked in service by herself most of the time cause she smelled like her cats, then got alzheimers. The elder body went to the society's suggestion of first.....seeing if she has relatives who could first help her. Also, she had to be a widow of 60 years of age who was in good standing .....which she was. It came down to the state taking care of this woman who was an absolute sweetheart and faithfull pioneer for over 30 years. Charity my ass! They give charity hear and there to the world, to look good on paper and to the media......not out of love for their own.

    Gumby

  • jwsons
    jwsons

    How about we just rent one of their KHs to organize an Apostate festival ? Like they used to rent a public facility ....

    jwsons

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