Curious? How many members of this group feel we are living in the "End Times"?

by Balaamsass2 11 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    I like to take a peek at the kids over on Reddit every week or so.

    This thread caught my eye:" Curious…. Do any ex jw or pimo, still believe the world is ending. I see people who have never been witnesses think that the world will end soon and they say things like “Jesus is coming soon”…. I mean any human can look around and see how ridiculous this world is getting. Morality is in the trash…it even feels like a shift and the world definitely seems like it’s headed to destruction.

    Not necessarily into the religion but I do believe the ending of it all.."

    I gave my answer...that this belief is common throughout history. Wikipedia has a fun link with over approx. 170 end date beliefs in the last 2,000 years. (Watchtower is listed multiple times :) )

    What do you personally believe? Those around you?

    Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

  • a watcher
    a watcher

    I believe that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is what initiates the time of the end, and that is still future.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    "Uncomfortable times" seem to crop up cyclically throughout history. I would say that this is an "uncomfortable time". The last similar period would probably be the early seventies. Hal Lindsey's Late Great Planet Earth became a best seller at the time because it struck a chord with those who were feeling uncomfortable about the news of the day. He predicted an imminent Rapture and Great Tribulation. And he was arguably a parent of all that "Left Behind" stuff.

    I imagine JWs, with 1975 rapidly approaching, were similarly excited by what seemed to be worsening global conditions.

    Fifty years down the track, we find ourselves in a similarly uncomfortable era. Hopefully, there will be many more in the future.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    The idea of an "End Times", if based on Scripture, results from a lazy and scant reading. Every Biblical Writer that predicted such a time, insisted his predictions would be fulfilled shortly after the time he wrote them, within a few years from the time of writing, not thousands of years later.

    No actual* prediction by a Bible Writer ever came true in the terms he laid down, they all failed, as did all End Times prophecies, rather spectacularly.

    To look for a "Later fulfillment" of already failed predictions is silly.

    * Note the word "actual" many seeming "predictions" were written after the event.

  • no-zombie
    no-zombie

    My fully PIMI family and extended circle of congregation friends, totally latch onto any bad new (no matter how small) as verification of the fact that we are living in the last days. "How more worse can it get?" is a question regularly asked of me.

    But in some ways, there is a ring of hollowness to their views. In that, instead of being driven to more zealousness, most still plan holidays, save for nice things and go out dinning as they have always done. Unlike being on a sinking ship and seeing the boat quickly lowering in the water, would normally induce more activity, for them its just situation normal. Thus while few of my active friends would admit it, I suspect that the Governing Body's constantly crying "wolf" have had its effect, at least on a subconsciousness level.

    For myself, as a unashamed PIMO, I don't see anything to support the idea in the news that we are living in the 'end times' based upon my good grasp of history and the Bible.

    Yes we have wars today and every war is a tragedy, however none in the 20th and 21st century have been as devastating (on a non-combatant percentage basis) as whats happened in the past. For example the '100 Year' war between England and France in the 1300s ... or the '30 Year' war of the 1600s, that permanently erased whole cities. Then there were the great plagues, where tens of millions regularly died in Europe and Asia. Lets not also forget the religious massacres, the great famines or the Mini Ice age between the years of 1300 and 1850s. All of which provided a good harvest for the grim reaper. All proving, why there were many good reasons that life expectancy in the late middle ages was 45, if you were very lucky.

    When will I be judged by God though, I don't know. But from the mercy Christ showed to people while on earth, I don't live in fear of that day ... as I honestly do my best to practice the life Jesus expects ... and trust in his forgiveness.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    Since the Bible (1 Peter 4:17) says that the judgement (of everything!) starts with the "house of God," (Christianity) then all Christians - regardless of denomination - should acknowledge that global event as their conclusive proof that the "last days" have finally begun.

    If such an "inexplicable" attack solely against Christianity happens in the coming months/years...😊

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    One thing to keep in mind is the sense of urgency that the WTS has always shown when it communicates with the rank and file. Even when they talk about not knowing, they still imply that the end is very close. No JW ever thought that armageddon would start 20, 30, or more years down the road. It's always right around the corner and it doesn't make sense to have any future plans for your secular life, when the end is so close.

    I remember thinking that I would not have to worry about what I would do after high school, since the end would certainly come before then. I graduated in 1986.

    When you have been expecting the end for a long enough time, you stop anticipating it. You're too scared to break away and plan for the future, but you have given up hope that the end will arrive soon. If anyone had told me in 1986 that I would still be in "this system of things" forty years later, I might have left much sooner. The correct question isn't 'how many JWs think the end is near?' The correct question is 'how many JWs live their lives as if the end is near?' The answer? Very, very few.

  • lastmanstanding
    lastmanstanding

    What Jesus said concerning “wars and rumours of wars” was to discount them as irrelevant. Jesus thoroughly disconnected man-made calamities as well as natural disasters from God’s will and the Kingdom.

    It is watchtower’s twisted minds, as well as not surprisingly, many other so-called “Christian” churches who warp Christ’s words for the purpose of gathering to themselves authority and control over weak minds.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    I'm 77 so i am living in the time of my end. But no hurry.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    It’s always the End of Days.

    Has been since the Beginning,

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