Yoga Sutras Of Pantanjali (1600 Years Ago)

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  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    I know a lot of people might not want anything to do with any religion and I can sympathize, The bible an ancient collection of books compiled by the Catholic Church authorities and the some what restricted version by Protestant movement we have the less voluminous of collected "holy" books call the King James. Which I think we have a lot to learn from them if we look at them from a more psychological point of view and not force them to be literally understood.

    I think it is the same with these Sutras, what is it telling us about the mind? What can we expect from certain meditative practices. I think Pantanjali does a good job.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali

    4. Prānāyāma[edit]

    Main article: PranayamaPrāṇāyāma is made out of two Sanskrit words prāṇa (प्राण, breath)[53] and āyāma (आयाम, restraining, extending, stretching).[54]
    After a desired posture has been achieved, verses II.49 through II.51 recommend the next limb of yoga, prāṇāyāma, which is the practice of consciously regulating breath (inhalation and exhalation).[55] This is done in several ways, inhaling and then suspending exhalation for a period, exhaling and then suspending inhalation for a period, slowing the inhalation and exhalation, consciously changing the time/length of breath (deep, short breathing).[56][57]

    5. Pratyāhāra[edit]

    Main article: Pratyahara
    Pratyāhāra is a combination of two Sanskrit words prati- (the prefix प्रति-, "against" or "contra") and āhāra (आहार, "bring near, fetch").[58]
    Pratyahara is drawing within one's awareness. It is a process of retracting the sensory experience from external objects. It is a step of self extraction and abstraction. Pratyahara is not consciously closing one's eyes to the sensory world, it is consciously closing one's mind processes to the sensory world. Pratyahara empowers one to stop being controlled by the external world, fetch one's attention to seek self-knowledge and experience the freedom innate in one's inner world.[59][60]
    Pratyahara marks the transition of yoga experience from first four limbs that perfect external forms to last three limbs that perfect inner state, from outside to inside, from outer sphere of body to inner sphere of spirit.[61]

    6. Dhāranā[edit]

    Main article: Dharana
    Dharana (Sanskrit: धारणा) means concentration, introspective focus and one-pointedness of mind. The root of word is dhṛ (धृ), which has a meaning of "to hold, maintain, keep".[62]Dharana as the sixth limb of yoga, is holding one's mind onto a particular inner state, subject or topic of one's mind.[63] The mind is fixed on a mantra, or one's breath/navel/tip of tongue/any place, or an object one wants to observe, or a concept/idea in one's mind.[64][65] Fixing the mind means one-pointed focus, without drifting of mind, and without jumping from one topic to another.[64]

    7. Dhyāna[edit]

    Main article: Dhyana in Hinduism
    Dhyana (Sanskrit: ध्यान) literally means "contemplation, reflection" and "profound, abstract meditation".[66]
    Dhyana is contemplating, reflecting on whatever Dharana has focused on. If in the sixth limb of yoga one focused on a personal deity, Dhyana is its contemplation. If the concentration was on one object, Dhyana is non-judgmental, non-presumptuous observation of that object.[67] If the focus was on a concept/idea, Dhyana is contemplating that concept/idea in all its aspects, forms and consequences. Dhyana is uninterrupted train of thought, current of cognition, flow of awareness.[65]
    Dhyana is integrally related to Dharana, one leads to other. Dharana is a state of mind, Dhyana the process of mind. Dhyana is distinct from Dharana in that the meditator becomes actively engaged with its focus. Patanjali defines contemplation (Dhyana) as the mind process, where the mind is fixed on something, and then there is "a course of uniform modification of knowledge".[68] Adi Shankara, in his commentary on Yoga Sutras, distinguishes Dhyana from Dharana, by explaining Dhyana as the yoga state when there is only the "stream of continuous thought about the object, uninterrupted by other thoughts of different kind for the same object"; Dharana, states Shankara, is focussed on one object, but aware of its many aspects and ideas about the same object. Shankara gives the example of a yogin in a state of dharana on morning sun may be aware of its brilliance, color and orbit; the yogin in dhyana state contemplates on sun's orbit alone for example, without being interrupted by its color, brilliance or other related ideas.[69]

    8. Samādhi[edit]

    Main article: Samadhi
    Samadhi (Sanskrit: समाधि) literally means "putting together, joining, combining with, union, harmonious whole, trance".[70][71]
    Samadhi is oneness with the subject of meditation. There is no distinction, during the eighth limb of yoga, between the actor of meditation, the act of meditation and the subject of meditation. Samadhi is that spiritual state when one's mind is so absorbed in whatever it is contemplating on, that the mind loses the sense of its own identity. The thinker, the thought process and the thought fuse with the subject of thought. There is only oneness, samadhi.[65][72][73]



  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower

    I went a seminar/workshop given by Transpersonal psychiatrist Stanislav Grof. It was a holotropic workshop. We uses just the breath to get into a deeply altered state of consciousness. I saw and experiences some pretty freaky things. I was the sitter for a guy that was getting absorbed into the ground he was touching,, he was also a forceps baby that was pulled out of the womb and he also relived that while I and a couple of other sitter put pillow all around him so he wouldn't hurt himself. He was fighting a force with daggers after him in a cave.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Grof

  • Ireneus
    Ireneus

    The wise have always understood the wisdom of looking beyond thoughts which are just chattering of the internal mouth called mind. (Luke 17:21) “The beginning of freedom is the realization that you are not the thinker.The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated. You then begin to realize that there is a vast realm of intelligence beyond thought, that thought is only a tiny aspect of that intelligence. You also realize that all the things that truly matter – beauty, love, creativity, joy, inner peace – arise from beyond the mind. You begin to awaken.”-- Eckhart Tolle

    JWs would never understand this. For them emptying the mind means inviting demons--demons who were originally presented as personification of vices for the sake simplicity and clarity, hence never exist as person.

  • Whynot
    Whynot

    I have read about this before but when it comes to meditation I prefer to use Brian Weiss' method. With his method, the experience is healing and positive. I wouldn't want to do a type of meditation that could be harmful or scary. That poor guy...it must have been terrifying for him.

  • MrRoboto
    MrRoboto

    I wish I had the time to pursue exactly this... I'm pretty sure my lack of sleep would have me sleeping in the first 3 minutes of trying to meditate though...

    I would love to explore what else is out there.. Or is that... in there..

    A consciousness researcher/physicist named Tom Campbell has an interesting story about doing transcendental meditation in college which wound up with him having visions of his computer code (punch cards in those days) where the lines with bugs in them would be highlighted. He would go back to the cards and sure enough, the visions were accurate. He explains it better but he's got a number of interesting observations from beyond the physical that we are used to.. You can find him on you tube but may be embedded in his other simulation theory related stuff

  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower
    I wouldn't want to do a type of meditation that could be harmful or scary. That poor guy...it must have been terrifying for him.

    Surprisingly I think it was therapeutic for him. The place was rented at Palo Alto, Ca. and this guy flew in from Michigan and picked me out to be his sitter, as he said latter he knew he would need some help so he asked me to be his sitter. He told me beforehand that he was a baby delivered by forceps , which didn't really dawn on me what type of reaction he would have, and so the somebody after him with daggers while in a cave was a reliving of such trauma, and by reliving it one gets to put the experience in a better place in the brain/mind and the less it fucks up the rest of your life,,he was clearly charged with emotional pain that needs come out and get reprocessed, ending the suffering the final goal, it is all in the mind

  • Whynot
    Whynot

    Oh wow! Brokeback I had no idea that it actually had a positive effect.

    Like I said I'm taking babysteps with meditation. I know this may sound strange but I mix my prayers to Jehovah in Jesus' name with meditation. I really, really enjoy it so far. I haven't regressesed to a past life but a name and certain foreign music kept playing in my head yesterday all day lol. The name is Yashi Noel. Never heard that name in my life and actually I don't even know if it's a place or name for something else. I have seen beautiful things though. Baby steps. I'm very new to this and still a little nervous about it.

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