Where did the Pleides idea come from?

by IronGland 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Robert Grant Haliburton published an article titled "The Pleiades Connection" in the December 1881 issue of Nature. This is the origin of the Watch Tower idea that God's throne is in the Pleiades. Haliburton reports on the discoveries of Johann von Maedler (1794-1874), an astronomer who made measurements supposedly of stars revolving around Alcyone, one of the stars of the Pleiades, and extravagently conjectured that the center of the universe may lay there. Haliburton applied this "discovery" to the divine by saying:--

    The ancients believed that Alcyone of the Pleiades was the center of the universe -- that Paradise, the primal home of humankind and the abode of the Deity and the spirits of the dead, was in the Pleiades.

    C. T. Russell lapped up this "scientific discovery," and the wacky Watch Tower claim was born.

    Leolaia

  • badboy
    badboy

    THAT IDEA HAS A PAGAN ORIGIN.

    tHIS STATE OF AFFAIRS is simply not goog enough,copying from paganism.

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Yes, Paganism, but I think that more directly, it was an idea borrowed from the mormons.

  • badboy
    badboy

    copying from another religious organization,this state of affairs is simply not good enough.

  • gumby
    gumby
    And the reasonable suggestion has been made that that center may be the heaven of heavens, the highest heaven, the throne of God.

    Whom was the suggestion made by?

    Since the "Slave Class" continually feeds itself.......then where did Russell get the info. stated above?

    He got it from the heathen bastards from christendom......that's where!

    Russell, Rutherford, Franz, and other writers, milk/milked the tits of the whore...Babylon The Great.......to feed their own sheep. Dubs have been quelching their thirst off of her milk since the dubs began.

    All one needs to do is to take note of the many times the society QUOTES from christendoms own writers, and supplies their words in the footnotes of the dubs own literature.

    Gumby

  • Gerard
    Gerard
    Re: Where did the Pleides idea come from?

    Opium dreams:

    *** Thy Kingdom Come (SIS vol III) 1891 (1903 edition) p. 327 ***

    [Note: not available on 1993/1995/1999 CD-ROM]

    ?Alcyone, the central one of the renowned Pleiadic stars? Alcyone, then, as far as science has been able to perceive, would seem to be 'the midnight throne' in which the whole system of gravitation has its seat, and from which the Almighty governs his universe?


    *** Reconciliation 1928 p.14 ***

    [Note: not available on 1993/1995/1999 CD-ROM]

    The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleides? It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling-place of Jehovah? The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others? But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared with the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God?

  • orangefatcat
  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    I am hoping the picture of the chart of the ages appeared up above alright

    These are the pryamids of Giza, I believe these one are the mathematical trianglulation of the universe. As with the Druids they used StoneHenge.

    Who wver said that mankind of old were stupid, their intelligence was far superior then our understanding. Even today we are baffled by the greatness of these astrological points on the earth. Do you think it was by mistake? I doubt it men were so intune with astronomy. Another example were the Greeks and Romans. And especially the Egyptians. I am fasinated by the intellect of man. As was Charles T Russell was fasinated by these so are many of us.

    Also I came across something that was interesting. Its a little oft the subject, but Charles T. Russell never considered himself as a Jehovah's Witness or its founder.

    Love to all OrangefatcatOrange Fat Cat 15 Double Kiss




  • ESTEE
    ESTEE

    The wts is the only borg with special knowledge ... doncha know ...!?

    ESTEE

  • IronGland
    IronGland

    it's not showing up because its on your hardrive, Orangefatcat.

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