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Food for thought...
If the guy we're John Q. Apostate and this was a pro-JW message board, would the responses be "sad", "horrific" or "RIP"? I AM actually commending you all for having normal human reaction.
Still, if it were any of us set on fire, the typical JW responses would be "See what happens when you leave Jehovah"? or "It's too late for her. She has no resurrection hope".
When we first heard about this horrific event, we were stunned and saddened like so many others. My jw wife's reaction was, "Jehovah will surely remember him in the resurrection". My apostate reply to her was, "Well I certainly hope so, but it would have been much more loving of God to have stepped in and protected his loyal servant from dying in such a horrific manner".
just saying!
Don Garloff I remember him well over 25 years ago. I remember him being one of the more leveler heads of young elders.
Simon, it's a mistake to think the mentally ill, some at least, are incapable of premeditation.
Simon, it's a mistake to think the mentally ill, some at least, are incapable of premeditation
It's then a mistake to think that pre-meditated and planned crime is due to mental illness.
The trend is for people to blame everything on the mentally ill when they play politics. So it's never guns, or islamists or anything else that would be "inconvenient"... it's the mentally ill, and they are demonized unfairly. Also a trend is for lawyers to try and get clients off by claiming they are not responsible for what they have done.
If someone commits a horrendous act because of a genuine mental episode, they typically don't flee the scene. They literally have no idea what they have done or that they need to flee.
Such genuine cases are few and far between.
I agree with Simon.
Reading this my first reaction was "This is a horrible, evil person who did this". I just can't fathom why you would douse someone in gasoline and light them on fire. What a horrendous way to die.
Very sad.
If anyone has any tips, on Dave or scuttlebutt in the Burney Ca., Congregation Shasta County investigators would appreciate a call. http://www.co.shasta.ca.us/index/sheriff_index/divisions/major_crimes.aspx
Burney is a remote congregation in the mountains that is more insular than most. I heard rumor of a child molestation situation there. If Dave had a position in the Congregation, he would have been a convenient target working at the counter in that remote Johnson Park Gas Station outside of tiny Burney. The old P.O. Don Garloff, was harsh and famous for jockeying for "circuit/district priveledges " and at the forefront of WTBTS dark side shell games with Assembly Hall finances, Theocratic Strategy, etc.
I didn't know him personally, but Dave seems to have been well-liked in the community. In his pre-JW days, he was a musician in some Metal bands albums. Bassist of RazorMaid, Boss Hogg, and Izzy Ozborne in the 80s.
A Go Fund Me page exists for his burial and widow. https://www.gofundme.com/david-wicks-family-support-fund
Terrible terrible thing to happen.
