Leaving/DF'ed because of homosexuality?

by peace-arms 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • peace-arms
    peace-arms

    How many cases are there of people leaving the JW Organization or being DF'ed because they decided to be gay? Is it common? I haven't heard of many cases, but I also haven't researched a whole lot.

    Oh yeah - Hi, I'm new!

  • shamus
    shamus

    Hi there! Welcome!

    I know of one board member who was. There are many homosexuals on this board, but I don't know if they got df'd specifically for those reasons.

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Quite a few I think. There is a website specifically fop gay exjw's, it's also a poor choice of words to say they decided to be gay. They always were.

    If you asked that question on the other site you could get a better answer probably. I'm not sure what the exact website is, you could probably do a search to find it.

  • CountryGuy
    CountryGuy

    Hi Peace-arms,

    Welcome to the board! There are a lot of great people here; I'm kind of new here myself. I hope enjoy yourself and learn as much as I have.

    A specific number would be hard get. But, I can tell you that there are literally thousands of us. There are a few of us here on JWD. I would defer to SFJim or Rayzorblade as to a more accurate number than my "thousands of us."

    One thing I would like to clarify, in your post you said:

    How many cases are there of people leaving the JW Organization or being DF'ed because they decided to be gay?

    In my opinion, none of us woke up as a JW one day and decided to be gay. Sexuality is not a choice for most gay people. I have met one lesbian in my life who claimed she got tired of men and decided to be a lesbian. However, this woman was not a JW and did not have to deal with the org's opinion on homosexuality. For most of us, coming to accept ourselves was a very hard thing to do. For me, it took me four years to accept I was gay after ending a relationship with a very nice JW sister. It was another four years until I would tell my family. This is common for most gay people in general, not just JWs. If it were a choice, then why would we put ourselves through this anguish? The only decision gay JWs face is to either accept yourself for who you are, or deny what you are and live a tortured existance.

    A great place to start any research on this topic would be "A Common Bond." ACB is a great organization for gay ex-jws. It is an international organization. The site for the NYC chapter is www.acbnyc.com. There are links to other chapters' websites there.

    Feel free to PM me if I can help you in any other way. Again, welcome to the board!

    Best regards, CountryGuy

  • darkuncle29
    darkuncle29

    My best friend helped me escape the BorG. Being gay, I'd have left eventually anyway. I am not DA or DF yet and don't care.

    Welcome to the board.

    welcome to the tribe

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    I left the because I didn't believe any of it, and never had.

    I am also gay. My JW family like to think this prevented me ever believing. I'm not df/da, just stopped.

  • Wolfgirl
    Wolfgirl

    There was a MS in our hall who was disfellowshipped because he was gay. I always liked him. He was such a nice man, so caring. When I was very ill and bedridden, he was the only one who came to visit me, and he brought me a lovely bouquet of roses. I have been trying to find him, to let him know I escaped, but I can't seem to locate him.

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    On reflection I can think of 8 ex JW friends who are gay, and not on this board, all in th UK. Only one is dfed. I also know about 4 active, faithful, and celibate gay JWs.

  • Paradise Found
    Paradise Found

    Hi

    Iam not a homosexual....But now I have left the organisation I love the freedom to accept people for WHO they are with out the judgemental attitude.

    Iam only slowly learning how arrogent I was and how delicate the humun mind is to accept PROPERGANDA:

    That is why I started a thread last week on what Jesus meant by judging.

    I think we go through life in a dark room with the blinds closed. Occassionally those blinds are opened and we have the chance to accept new ideas. But we do this when we stop being so righteouse or superior then we allow those blinds to be opened.

    I mean everything I belived in all my hopes goals and aspirations were nothing but a pipe dream. But the hardest thing to accept is I judged better people than me as lesser. This is hard to live with.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    I don't know percentages, but the endless tirades about homosexuality in the pubs and from the platform started to get very tiresome to me towards the end of my dub days.

    There was a guy in one of the congs I attended early on. He was about 14 or so at the time, and everybody knew this kid was gay, there was no hiding it. He was so effeminate. But nobody would really come out and say he was gay. He had already been baptized, I think he was 12 or so when he made his promise to follow the "slave".

    He got married to some ditz-brain dumb JW girl when he was 19. Two years later, he leaves her, enrolls in cosmetology school, comes out of the closet, and is quickly DF'd. He enjoys very little association with his immediate family now, and his extended JW family and former friends shun him completely.

    On the other hand, one of my good friends had a brother who was similar in that it was apparent from an early age that he had strong gay tendencies. Well, he never got baptized, he never wanted anything to do with the religion. So now as an openly gay man, he has full association with his family with no fear of elder-harrassment.

    This was patently absurd to me, that 2 people who everybody knew all along were gay, get totally different treatment as adults, just because one of them had naively been baptized (and probably under pressure) as a pre-teen. And they expected me to be chomping at the bit to go out and make converts for this religion. I got to where I was embarrassed to be a JW, it was all too strange.

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