It was the food that did it!

by onacruse 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Ah, to finally know why we die, it makes so much sense!

    (Bold added)

    (1925) The Way to Paradise pp. 74-76

    As [Adam] daily exercised, particles of [his body] would be thrown off, and new atoms would be needed to replace them. There was abundant supply of perfect material in the food and water and air in the garden. As long as he could partake of them, his body could easily maintain itself in perfect condition. When expelled from the garden, he could obtain only imperfect food with which to rebuild the body. Therefore in the very first meal which he had outside the garden, he put imperfect material into his body; and there it began to weaken, to die. At the end of nine hundred and thirty years, the body was in such a weak condition that it could stand the strain no longer. It collapsed; and Adam was dead.

    ?

    Why did Adam die? Because he disobeyed God?s commandment. It was not because he was human and lived on the earth, nor because he had been imperfectly created, nor placed in imperfect conditions, nor supplied with imperfect food, nor because God intended to change him later to some other place or nature. When he disobeyed, God expelled him from his perfect surroundings; and his death followed because he could not obtain perfect food.

    The WTS continued with this idea for 3 decades:

    *** w53 6/1 p. 349 Foreknowledge Compatible with Free Will ***

    22 When Jehovah pronounced his earthly creation, including man, ?very good? it meant perfect: ?His work is perfect.? (Deut. 32:4) Yet some say, If Adam and Eve had been perfect they would not have wrongly used their freedom of will and choice. But not necessarily so. A machine may be well designed, of flawless materials, of excellent workmanship, and accompanied by clear instructions as to the kind of fuel that will suitably run it, and warnings against using inferior fuels. Now, if the wrong fuel is deliberately used in defiance of the manufacturer?s careful instructions and the machine is fouled up and ruined, can the maker be blamed for producing an inferior machine? Not rightly so. It was the same with Adam and Eve. Their minds were perfect. Their bodies were perfect. Their provided food for mind and body was perfect. They were clearly and perfectly instructed as to what fuel to take in and what to reject. Then Satan through the serpent suggested a change in fuel, saying it would give them more power, give them a lift, make them like gods. So Eve took in the wrong fuel and got fouled up. She gave some to Adam and he was fouled up. Both were beyond repair; they were deliberate in their disobedience to instructions.

    3 years later they offer a watered-down concoction:

    w56 3/1 p. 159 Questions from Readers

    Did Adam die as a result of being ousted from the garden of Eden and having to eat the imperfect food that grew outside?

    It was not the eating of food outside the garden that Adam was warned against, but the partaking of certain fruit growing inside the garden, namely, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad

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    It was this rebellious disobedience that brought upon them Jehovah?s sentence of death. They were ousted from the garden and in the sweat of their brows had to eke their existence from the soil, but it was not the eating of this food that killed them. It was disobedience that brought death, not food. But food was partly Jehovah?s means of execution, now that man was sentenced to death and imperfect. Food was not the total factor. Jesus when a man on earth was perfect, had the right to life, and could have lived forever on earth as a perfect man. Some challenge this, saying he would have become imperfect and died by reason of eating of our present food supply. But if food would do this, the process must have started during the thirty-three and a half years that he lived, and if this was so then Jesus was no longer perfect at the time he died, and therefore not Adam?s equal and not a qualified ransomer. But we know that Jesus was a perfect man, Adam?s equal, when he died and that he is the qualified ransomer. His perfection was not marred by the food he ate. Food is not the total factor. It is not what you eat or refrain from eating that governs, but whether you obey or disobey Jehovah. So it was also in Adam?s case.

    So, it's the food, I tell ya...it's the food!

    Craig

    PS: I wasn't able to immediately find any pertinent Russell-era comments on this, nor any remarks by the WTS about it since 1956.

  • imallgrowedup
    imallgrowedup

    Craig -

    Yep! It's almost as potent as WT "spiritual food"!

    :-)

    growedup

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    Damn! And I've been eating hotdogs for 35 years! What category does hotdogs fall in?

  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    onacruse. Too bad most jws will never get to read this crap. But it sure is funny for us.

    he put imperfect material into his body;

    It was probably Haggis.

    It is not what you eat or refrain from eating that governs, but whether you obey or disobey Jehovah

    Obviously a lot of JWs still follow that philosphy today

  • searcher
    searcher

    Sorta shoddy workmanship on gods part to create imperfect food in the first place.

  • Huxley
    Huxley

    I've adopted the "Atkins Spiritual Diet".

    Any spiritual food from the WTS is high carb, and to be avoided.

    Huxley

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    This is interesting. The doctrine you described above is still being taught by an ex-JW sect called God's Kingdom Society. Their statement of doctrine has this to say:

    Because of sin man lost the privilege of enjoying the Edenic conditions God made for him. He started subsisting on imperfect food and became subject to continuous degeneration and ultimately to death. (Romans 6:23). Thus Adam died within God?s one "day" - which is about a thousand years - (Adam lived 930 years) - Genesis 5:5; Psalm 90:4; 2 Peter 3:8.

    http://www.gksmountain.org/doctrines.htm

    The group says they were founded in 1934 in Lagos, Nigeria by Saint Gideon Meriodere Urhobo. No mention at all is made of a connection to JWs. But if you read their history and doctrine it has Rutherford-era WTBTS written all over it.

    "Urhobo organised into a group of Bible students." "the ten doctrines symbolized in the Holy Bible as ten strings in the harp of God". "God gave the Devil a suspended death sentence the execution of which will take place at the expiration of the time given him to prove his boast that no man would remain faithful to God." "And that only the 144,000 chosen and anointed Christians". Physical facts in fulfillment of the Bible prophecies clearly proves that Christ?s second coming took place in the year 1914 when God?s Kingdom or perfect government was set up in the heavens after the casting out of Satan and all his wicked angels (the demons) down to the earth." "Jehovah will use during his second presence." "After the gospel had been preached round the world as a witness to all nations, Jesus Christ will destroy satan and his hosts in the Battle of Armageddon." "By the grace of God, a great multitude will pass through or survive the battle of Armageddon and live forever." "These "ancient worthies" will also be the representatives of God on earth as rulers." "The GKS therefore is a part and parcel of God?s universal organization." "become a mighty Christian Organisation" "the GKS hymnbook - Theocratic Songs of Praise (TSP). "proven by God?s Kingdom Society from the Holy Bible, biblical chronology." "Paradise house (kingdom hall)." The first resurrection belongs to Jesus Christ and his body members, the apostles numbering 144,000 who will be changed into immortal spirit beings and taken to heaven - 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Timothy 4:6-8; 1 John 3:2; Philippians 3:21; Revelation 14:1. Better resurrection is for the ancient worthies, from Abel to John Baptist who distinguished themselves by their works of faith. These will be the earthly representatives of the heavenly kingdom and will rule as princes in all the earth."

    It's so weird to think that today in the 21st century, Rutherfordian doctrine is still being taught!!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Good find, craig

    In that case, jesus' body was never perfect, cuz he was eating inperfect food as well. Hence, the debt of a perfect human sacrifice was never paid, and mankind is still hopeless. Funny how they could maintain this doctrine for more than a day or two.

    SS

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    I got something earlier for ya. From Rutherford's best seller Millions Now Living Will Never Die [1920] (pp. 99-100):

    When God expelled Adam from Eden he said: "And now, lest he [Adam] put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, . . . and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life". (Genesis 3:22-24) Thus the Word shows that had Adam remained in Eden, feeding upon the perfect food it afforded, he would have continued to live. The judgment was executed against him by causing him to feed upon imperfect food. Perfect food, therefore, seems a necessary element to sustain human life everlastingly. When the kingdom of Messiah is inaugurated, the great Messiah will make provision for right food conditions. Thus, when restoration begins, a man of seventy years of age will gradually be restored to a condition of physical health and mental balance. The Lord will teach him how to eat, what to eat, and other habits of life.

    I gotta be taught how to eat too???

  • greatteacher
    greatteacher

    Was it "The Lord" who taught Rutherford how to drink?

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