How do witnesses answer the following?

by sandy 18 Replies latest jw friends

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  Eyebrow2

  Sandy, Sandy, Sandy.....

  I have often thought the same thing, although could never expressed it quite that well. That is one I am going to try to remember!
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  Yerusalyim

  I can give you the standard Christian answer to that, but not the JW one. We regular Christians aren't buying this whole "test" idea.
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  The 7th Messenger

  Good question... maybe you will find an answer if you read this: http://bric.users.ftech.net/chapter01.html

  and this: http://bric.users.ftech.net/chapter02.html
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  Frannie Banannie

  hmmm.....I seem to recall that while others said that Jesus was the ransom sacrifice, he, himself never said that....I believe he is quoted as having said something about *having to do* this.....not that he wanted to or offered to do it like he was a volunteer.....it was more like....a responsibility or duty.....or perhaps.....penance for something he had done before being born as human......

  Frannie B
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  little witch

  I often feel that Jesus made a lot more sense 2000 years ago than He does now.

  The NT makes perfect sense to me if I empathize with the outside class in that time and place.

  I have studied ancient sacrificial religions and in that context Jesus was a liberator. He is relevant today as such in a social context.

  Do good, hurt no other, respect each other and love the almighty....Sounds very similar to other schools of thought.

  There is emphasis on the Jewish aspect in the scriptures because the middle east was central to the known world at that time.

  Try (suggestion only) relating the knowledge of Jesus in this day, and filter out the local oddities.

  You will begin to see the "social gospel". the relevance of Jesus.
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  greven

  I do not get the logic of the ransome sacrifice

  Oh, it's simple really! The logic goes as follows:
  

  1)Your great great great great great etc, ancestor made the fatal mistake of eating a piece of yet undertermined fruit. Let's assume it was a banana.

  2) Naturally you and I carry part of the blame. Eventhough you and me weren't even born yet. Somehow this causes us to die. Animals die too, but what sin their ancestors practised is not clear. They could be designed that way, but who would design something that breaks down on purpose?

  3) To release you of this terrible curse, God again mercifully punishes or allows to be punished someone else. This happens to be his son, who had also nothing to do with the original sin. As everybody knows two wrongs makes one right.

  4)Voila! This releases you of the blame for something you never did in the first place. Oh, you still die though. That's not part of the bargain.

  It all makes perfect sense!

  Greven
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  Realist

  ok here is a paradox i would like an JW to answer. according to JWs god is almighty. therefore he can do whatever he wants. for instance he could create an object so heavy that even he cannot lift it. (metaphorically speaking) but now there is something he cannot do (namnely lift the object). hence he is not almighty.
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  greven

  Realist,
  

  Logical contradictions are not a fair 'test' IMHO. It is about definitions not power. He can not make square circles or dark light, not because of lack of might but because one definition excludes the other. We are the ones that create the definitions. Basically you ask: can God do something he cannot do? You have in advance defined something as impossible, and then ask if it is possible.

  Greven
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  stillajwexelder

  He obviously enjoys human suffering