Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses? (page 12)

Diogenesister

One thing I detest is this whole " gifts in men" concept which they narcissistically and egotistically write about themselves when the Bible in the GREEK scriptures says " gifts UNTO MEN" supposedly taken from Psalms 43 it is even Misquoted in Ephesians 4:8, which says: "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

The author changed the words and meaning of the psalm from "received gifts" to "gave gifts".

So it has absolutely bugger all to do with your Jehovahs witness elders and COs and GB members.

Where is there any humility in the leaders of this organization???? This years convention video features a boy walking out of a cinema because the film is 'violent" yet jw's joyfully look forward to the most violent act of genocide in history : the deaths of 7 billion people including babies and kids in your armageddon fantasy.

Diogenesister

You know the Catholics dont follow the pope right? They "follow god" the pope is just the middle man.

Your governing body is the same thing.

Wrong! At least Jesus is mediator for all Catholics!

Most JWs don't have Jesus as their mediator....they must associate with the Governing Body who do.

Therefore the governing body has elevated themselves higher than the pope and taken the place of Jesus Christ.

atomant

Black spirit do you think your alias is an appropriate name when preaching?

punkofnice

Blackspirit will not engage us. This poster is only interested in copy and pasting WBT$ propaganda to either, count time or troll.

This poster won't answer questions or read replies.

So. I'm going to copy paste watchtower propaganda too....

"Man on earth can no more get rid of these demonic `heavens' (the organization of wicked spirits) than man can by airplane or rockets or other means get up above the air envelope which is about our earthly globe and in which man breathes." (The Truth Shall Make You Free, 1943, p. 285)

"The face of the deep, of course, would be toward the Pleiades, which are claimed to be the habitation of Jehovah." (Creation; 1927; 2,175,000 ed.; p. 94)

"The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades appears to be the crowning center around which the known systems of the planets revolve even as our sun's planets obey the sun and travel in their respective orbits. It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling-place of Jehovah and the place of the highest heavens;..." (Reconciliation; 1928; p. 14)

"The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared with the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God." (Reconciliation; 1928; p. 14)

AND FINALLY....the reason Blackspirit shouldn't be here if this poster is a genuine JW

July 15, 2011 WT ‘’Well, apostates are 'mentally diseased', and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings." ‘’7 What is involved in avoiding false teachers? We do not receive them into our homes or greet them.
We also refuse to read their literature, watch TV programs that feature them, examine their Web sites, or add
our comments to their blogs.’’

freddo

BS quoted - "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive" - Hebrews 13:17.

He forgets the context which is a few verses back at Hebrews 13:7 - 9.

(Hebrews 13:7-9) . . .Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith.

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.

9 Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.

(Bold italics added.)

Not_Culty

MightyV8

How long is a piece of string?

Can ducks swim?

Is the pope a Catholic?

why-do-people-oppose-jehovahs-witnesses?

Because we can. full stop.

TD

BlackSpirit

On the surface, your statements don't appear to be terribly congruent. Maybe you could elaborate a bit

You say:

"....only one is our leader, Christ. And only one is our God, Jehovah."

Okay. I think most Christians would agree with that

You say:

"but never will apostasy be endorsed by God or his word the bible."

Fair enough. Christianity would be meaningless without moral boundaries of some sort.

But you wrap all of this up into a back-handed insult:

"Some people seem to be so fascinated about members of the governing body....Yet others allow themselves to be stumbled by men or women (sad).

Who decides what constitutes "Apostasy" in the JW faith?

Where in the Bible did it say that post-exposure vaccines were wrong?

Where in the Bible did it say that organ transplantation were wrong?

Where in the Bible did it say that use of clotting factors was wrong?

Where in the Bible did it say that experimental blood substitutes were wrong?

I could go on, but hopefully this is enough to illustrate the point.

You cannot dismiss people's concerns as "Stumbling" and insult them as "Apostates" when what does and what does not constitute apostasy in the JW faith is defined not by the Bible, but by a group of ignorant old men.

Perhaps you can't separate the two (i.e. God and man) in your mind?

Finkelstein

JWS are slaves to corrupt commercialized false prophets ........ simple

1 John 4:1 ......

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

sir82

Perhaps you can't separate the two (i.e. God and man) in your mind?

This.

In WT-world, "Jehovah" and "the Organization / the Governing Body" are functionally interchangeable.

Obeying / disobeying one is considered exactly morally equivalent to obeying / disobeying the other.

Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

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