UKRAINE: are things SO bad...... (page 2)

Anony Mous

I find it interesting that since Brexit, more immigrants have been running away from Western Europe than ever before. If Brexit is so bad for people, and the EU is open arms to immigrants why do these people treat France and Germany like it’s Mexico and Venezuela.

kramer

The 500,000 net immigrant figure that certain uninformed people are quoting on this thread include totally legal migrations from Ukraine, Hong Kong and Afghanistan… all migration that the UK government arranged.

kramer

Why would you use the navy to turn back assylum seekers, when we have a coast guard and border force , and how exactly do you do that in international waters?

LoveUniHateExams

These illegal immigrants arriving on our shores should be met by the Royal Navy on approaching British waters and turned around and sent South back to France. France is not a war torn country, they are perfectly safe there -

Or, we could stop sending the RNLI to rescue them, and JUST LET THEM DROWN. Not nice, but it would discourage more from doing it.

St George has it right.

Migrants are swapping the relative safety of France for the dangers of the English Channel ... in rubber f**king dinghies.

And what about parents putting their children into rubber dinghies. To all parents on this forum - you wouldn't put your children in danger, would you?

Any parents who have done that have totally failed their children, no question.

Absolute insanity.

A word has to be said about the people smugglers, too. We should just send in the army or armed police or anti-terrorist squads, and wipe them out. No fucking around, just shoot the bastards.

Simon

Or, we could stop sending the RNLI to rescue them, and JUST LET THEM DROWN. Not nice, but it would discourage more from doing it.

Probably one of those things where it would ultimately end up saving more lives in total.

slimboyfat

Why country takes more asylum seekers France or UK does anyone have the numbers?

Earnest

Accoding to Asylum in Europe

In 2021 France provided asylum to 33,875 (out of 120,685 applications considered). No applications outstanding.

In 2021 UK provided asylum to 12,835 (out of 56,495 applications considered). 100,564 applications outstanding.

The Government statistics website showed the UK offered protection, in the form of asylum, humanitarian protection, alternative forms of leave and resettlement, to 13,210 people (including dependants) in the year ending September 2021.

Note to LUHE : An asylum seeker is not, by definition, an illegal immigrant.

LoveUniHateExams

An asylum seeker is not, by definition, an illegal immigrant - hmm, not sure about this.

Is it not possible for an illegal immigrant to also seek asylum?

BTW, the dinghy people are funding criminal outfits run by the people smugglers. This isn't legal, surely ...

Earnest

LUHE, asylum seekers must apply for protection in the country of destination—meaning they must arrive at or cross a border in order to apply. It is only when their application (and any appeals) are rejected that they become an illegal immigrant if they then remain in the country.

It would be possible for an illegal immigrant to seek asylum, but they would have to prove to the authorities that they meet the criteria to be covered by refugee protections. This could happen, for example, if the government in the country of origin changed while the immigrant was legally here and he would now face persecution if he returned.

slimboyfat

Thanks for the figures Earnest. So France accepts two and a half times as many asylum seekers compared with the UK. 👍

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