Does Love Never Fail??

Latte

Does ?Love Never Fail??

Is it necessary to shun those who shun us? Would if be right to do that?

It has been over three years since my family and I left the borg.

Just briefly ?.I had the usual bouts of crying., doubting myself.?.usual ?cult withdrawal? symptoms, as I?m sure many here can relate to.

I had the mind set that I would not let them hurt me, therefore I would likely avoid any dubs should I come into contact with any.; depending who they were I would likely ignore them as they would me.

Recently a JW who was the only person to shun me publicly, and quite obviously, commited suicide last week.

This has made me think again.

I feel that JW?s actually lead quite a depressing existence, I knew many who were stressed and on anti-depressants or claimed to have ME.

Now?three years on , I am very happy, happier than I?ve ever been in my life.

I feel only sadness, and sorry for the active, believing JW?s.

I wish that in some way?s I had made my exit different, I know I can?t change anything.

I guess my contented feeling (which one certainly doesn?t have whilst exiting) is making me see the JW v Ex- JW?s in a whole new light.

Thanks for listening! And sorry for rambling??..

stillajwexelder

All you say is true -- love fails -- TRUE LOVE NEVER FAILS -- JWs do not show true love IMHO - Jesus showed true love - he would never shun people -- he would say let him who is without sin cast the first stone -- Jesus would not humiliate people - there is an active thread on Public Reproof which is not as bad as DFing -- and that is humiliating --Jesus would never have done that

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/65950/1.ashx

Special K

Hi Latte

I was bitter against the J.W.'s for quite a few years....but then I got to another place..

and now I feel sorry for them. How blinded, narrow-minded, programmed, flippy-flopping, ... It's not the J.W's I hate it is their religion that is "nutty bonkers".. and brainwashes alot of good people.

It's like a disease of the mind.

sincerely

Special K

Strawberryfieldsforever

I was really bitter at the JW's too for a very long time. But after awhile, you do feel sorry for them. I watch my mother driving in service almost everyday. Cold or Hot outside. Sick or depressed, she won't miss the service or meetings. I wish she didn't have to do that. I know they think they need to keep Gods blessing by doing all they can do. I want to tell her to STOP! You don't have to keep beating yourself everyday trying to get the word out there. So much sorrow I feel for her. But I can't tell her any of this, cause she's programmed not to listen. I wish I could talk to her in a dream or something.....maybe then I can say what I want to say without her blocking it.

I feel sorry for all of them now. Thats why I joined this forum. I wanted to have even just one of my posts touch someone, somewhere, sometime. It would make me feel so good to know that I helped in some small way to reach out and help those who are suffering in the JW religion.

Thats what everyone here has done for me. You are all constantly making new topics and discussions to keep the lurkers interested. I didn't realize you all cared that much. I hope that I can help in a small way and every new one that joins will help too. And we will all keep trying to get the word out about the so called "truth".

Strawberryfieldsforever

Latte

Stillajwexelder,

Yes, I quite agree, they do not show true love, and certainly I cannot imagine JC ?shunning ANYONE?how childish that would be!

Special K,

I hate aspects of their ?religion? too. I am shamed that I was ever a JW. How people that you have know all your life can come to mean NOTHING to you, because they have left the ?religion?. Yes, I have ?dismissed people from my mind when they left the cult. How could I do that?? Because of the W/T ?badness? that come from Crooklyn. Yes, a disease of the brain. I feel so sorry for the genuine people out there, and there are many???

Strawberryfieldsforever

Sorry to hear about your mother, hopefully, one day, something will make her think. Sometimes the veneer of ?love in the congregation? becomes transparent?here?s hoping!

cause she's programmed not to listen

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Programmed is the correct word.

That?s why I joined this forum. I wanted to have even just one of my posts touch someone, somewhere, sometime. It would make me feel so good to know that I helped in some small way to reach out and help those who are suffering in the JW religion.

I hope that I can help in a small way and every new one that joins will help too. And we will all keep trying to get the word out about the so called "truth".

I quite agree! So many posts have helped me to be sure that I was doing the right thing when I left. The only thing I wish, was that I had taken the advice to take it slow. Unfortunately, for the kids sake, we left?shall we say?.like yesterday!!

Strawberry, I?m sure that your posts help many - that is such a nice reason for posting!

Thank you all for you kind replies!

Sassy

I agree with all the comments in this thread. I only officially let go last July, so am still in the middle of many exiting emotional drama as things in my life have changed and impacted me. I wish I was 3 yrs, 5 yrs, 10 yrs out. I'm not ashamed of having been a JW, only because I didn't know any different. I was raised one and my mother who raised me is sincere in her beliefs. How can I fault her. I'm angry at many things I lost out on growing up. People I lost touch with through the years because they 'left the org' and I didn't understand why. I have always been angry regarding the shunning and breaking up of families.

Love does fail within this organization. Friendships are conditional. Love is conditional. The outrageius treatment I received when I decided to leave this religion overwhelms and hurts me. For people to love me, one sure wouldn't know it by their reaction to my quitting. I know that I would never have been that way if the shoe had been on the other foot. I know I wouldn't because I have never personally shunned a single soul in my life. I didn't agree with it..

I know I am happier outside of the JW box. I know that happiness will only get stronger as I let go of the baggage (that which I can) as I pull away... every day it is a little easier..

Latte

Sassy,

Last July is really early day! Well done on getting where you are now?it does get easier!

The reason I say that I am ashamed that I was ever a JW, (of having been an adult JW I might add) is due to the fact that even though I am now an EX JW, people still connect you to a strange religion, one cannot get away from that - needless to say I do my best to make sure that I never tell/talk about my JW past with others. I made this mistake when I first left - thinking that people would sympathise, but they do not, they just connect you with those strange door knocking people! I feel that everyone knows what a weird ?religion? the JW?s are, the only ones who don?t are the JW?s themselves.

Friendships are conditional. Love is conditional. The outrageius treatment I received when I decided to leave this religion overwhelms and hurts me.

(((Sassy))) So sorry to hear that! The conditional friendship/love is hurtful?I feel for you.

I know that happiness will only get stronger as I let go of the baggage (that which I can) as I pull away... every day it is a little easier..

You will get stronger?for sure!

Sassy

I am learning the part about not telling new acquantances that I have been a JW in the past. Not that I have had bad experiences from people, but I really want to fit in.. feel NORMAL.. instead of all the years of not feeling that way..

I love that I moved to a new town.. a new home. My neighbors have no idea I was one of them. No I'm not ashamed, BUT, I want to focus on who I am on the inside.. not who I was told to be. So I guess that goes with what you are saying too..

Carmel

Jehovah's love is limitless and never fails! Just ask the 5.9999 billion non-belivers He's gonna torch how much He loves them!

Ufda!

caveman

onintwo

You've certainly hit the nail on the head, Latte. JW's, by and large, are the unhappiest people I know. They have been told to put all of their wants, needs, etc. on hold waiting on the New System of things.

How can you be happy watching all of your un-fulfilled desires for NATURAL things slip away? Alarmingly see your own body's energy slowly ebb? Waiting, waiting...

I know of couples, once young, who decided not to have children because of the closeness of the end! Now I wonder, do they dare think that they will never have grandchildren as well? Still they believe.

I am saddened also by the wasted lives among these people. What a crime the WTS is guilty of. I'm sad for the young kids born into this mess.

Onintwo

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