One of the greatest discussions I've ever seen on this forum.
Oh, and that link to the Nova program on "The Great Math Mystery", thanks to Magnum.
Len Miller
How Life May have Started on This Planet Without YHWH
by fulltimestudent 13 Replies latest jw friends
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LongHairGal
PISTOLPETE:
Very good posts and thoughts.
With regard to us being created as an experiment and (they) didn’t quite know what they were doing. Possibly. I often felt that when I read the biblical story of the flood I wondered why He didn’t know his creation was going to displease him..and to destroy a whole world as a punishment??
With regard to what you last said: “those being(s)(?) who created life on earth are long gone”..that could very well be the reality - depressing as it is. To be abandoned. Otherwise, where the HELL are they?
I had read somewhere that ancient mines in Africa were found (hundreds of thousands of years old) and that the first humans were supposedly created (Ancient Alien theory) to be a slave race to work these mines. This is also depressing and far from the noble beginning some imagine the human race had..But, will we ever know the truth about any of this?
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pistolpete
LongHairGal
With regard to what you last said: “those being(s)(?) who created life on earth are long gone”..that could very well be the reality - depressing as it is. To be abandoned. Otherwise, where the HELL are they?
I agree it’s depressing, but just remember, it’s all just a theory----like every other hypothesis out there about how life begin. Lots of circumstantial evidence, but very little “DIRECT EVIDENCE.
WE NEED EYEWITNESSES TO SEAL THE DEAL!
Just to add, Something of interest that has happened in the past 12 plus years that most people are unaware of is that we (Humans) are on the trajectory of becoming CREATORS. We have already been engineering microbes, engineering Tissue, and robots.
What does this have to do with us being Creators?
Graig Ventor and his team of Scientist, have already created the world's first synthetic life form that paves the way for designer organisms----- that are built rather than evolved.
It took 20 scientists more than 10 years at an estimated cost of $40m to make this happen. It was the first programmable cell that acts like hardware. You can insert DNA and have it boot up as a DIFFERENT SPECIES.
At the same time this was happening, some people at MIT were creating a registry of standard biological parts like DNA, RNA, PROTEINS, and every thing needed to start creating Life forms.
Soon after this, College students started creating these odd little creatures that happen to be alive. Once it came out on the news that this was happening, religious groups, condemned the work and accused Ventor that he was playing GOD and started with the law suits.
Ventor got mad and decided to keep all related work from then on secret, and in the meantime applied for patents on more than 300 genes, raising concerns that the company might claim intellectual rights to the building blocks of life.
Years later a man named Cliff Tabin created a wing on a chicken. This was the beginning of Tissue Engineering. Later a Spanish woman who was dying of TB needed a Trachea. So they took a dead person’s Trachea, they removed all the cells of the Trachea, sprayed the Spanish lady’s stem cells on the Trachea, and then she regrew her own Trachea. It was implanted in her and she continued living. Here’s the story;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SoMr5Wu8Es
Now they are doing this with all kinds of body parts, including regenerating a human Heart.
In the meantime in Robotics, Science is now starting to connect arms and legs with a person’s nervous system, allowing the person to use brain function to move the arm or leg.
Now there are companies that want to take some of these created life forms being created by Mr. Ventor and send them to some of the planets close by like Mars, and study how they evolve under Mar’s environment. To see if they can adapt and evolve into High Level Sentient Beings like Humans.
Think about what we are starting to do. That same thing some unknown Creators did when they created life on earth either directly or through evolution.
We have no compassion for the life forms we will send there, regardless if they suffer tremendously for millions of years as they evolve. We are just experimenting and studying life as it is created and evolves.
In other words-----------We are becoming GODS!----But we are not IMMORTAL!
We CAN NOT grant anyone EVER LASTING LIFE - even though we can CREATE LIFE.
Question; Are we now doing the same thing that our Creators did when they created life on earth??
What happens if we start a nuke war here on earth and destroy all life, while at the same time the life forms we put on Mars evolve into sentient beings? Then they start questioning Where they came from, is there a God of love, is there such a thing as EVERLASTING LIFE?
Will they follow the same steps as us Humans? Will they also go through the same steps of developing Religion???
See this interesting Video. Human discovery so far, starts at the 7:35 minute mark
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Pistolpete
I also don’t think that the Intelligent Beings responsible for life on earth were the same ones who created the Earth. Most people who believe that the same one who created earth is the same one who created life on earth. This is the result of believing in the God of the Bible who is said to have created all things, so it their default position the ONE Being created all.
It’s very difficult for people with this belief to consider other possibilities.In considering multiple possibilities people often look for the right balance between the simplicity of the possibility and its explanatory power. The simplest theory with the greatest explanatory power tends to be a good option to lean towards. Postulating one intelligent being is simpler than multiple intelligent beings. If it’s possible for an intelligent being to exist with sufficient power and knowledge to create the universe and the earth, then this being also most likely has the knowledge to create life. This doesn’t disprove your theory; it just indicates your theory has more moving parts than needed to explain the existence of the universe, the earth and life.