Divisions deliberately caused by God?

by LostintheFog1999 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  raymond frantz

  LostintheFog1999, your theory has some legs in that the Genesis account consists of short stories that Moses connected into longer narrative, nevertheless it is chronologicaly correct since Nimrod was indeed Noah’s great grandson.

  WAS NIMROD A NEPHILIM? The account seems to suggest that he became a "giborim=mighty one" like the Nephilim of old.

  WHY WOULD GOD CONFUSE THE LANGUAGES?

  Many don't know that building the tower was an open rebellion to God.According to Josephus, Nimrod changed the nature of the government to tyranny under his brutal and evil dictatorship, just as an evil potentate would do, and even more importantly, just as an evil Nephilim potentate would do. Through the brutal and corrupt power of his government, Nimrod imposed his will and state-sponsored religion upon the people of Shinar. Through brute force and fear, Nimrod was successful in implementing his rebellious and heretical religion on most of the people at that time. Those who did not abide by the new ways were callously removed, likely by death, from the so-called enlightened, foreshadowing the great end-time genocide that will be waged first by the religion of Babylon (Rev. 7:1–17; Rev. 18:24; and Rev. 19:2) and then by the Antichrist (Rev. 13:5–18).
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  peacefulpete

  Ray .....You have probably heard from others but no, 'Moses' did not write Genesis. It is an anonymous work that was not explicitly claimed to have been written by Moses until the Babylonian Talmud (200CE at the earliest) It is true the "Law" aspects of the Lev. and Deut. had naturally become identified with the Moses character due to his role in that story and over time even the works in general came to be called "Moses" by shorthand, but the claim that Moses wrote Genesis is a very late tradition.

  Objective scholarship has suggested the book of Genesis went through stages of compilation and redaction from the 6th to the 3rd centuries BCE. If there was an historical Moses he was long, long dead.
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  peacefulpete

  Many don't know that building the tower was an open rebellion to God.According to Josephus, Nimrod changed the nature of the government to tyranny under his brutal and evil dictatorship, just as an evil potentate would do, and even more importantly, just as an evil Nephilim potentate would do. Through the brutal and corrupt power of his government, Nimrod imposed his will and state-sponsored.............

  This ever so brief pericope of the tower has inspired centuries of addition mythmaking and expansions. Josephus is reciting legends not found in the 9 verses in Genesis. Read the story in situ and you will see none of those colorful associations are in the text. No Nimrod, no rebellion, no arrows into heaven, no pagan idols. These are the embellishments of the intertestamental period and Talmud. The story stood alone as an etiological tale of the origin of languages. In that story the gods foil an effort to become godlike in much the same way they did in the Eden story. It might seem a difficult concept now but this idea is center to many ancient myths wherein the gods withhold something so as to keep humans in their place.
  
  
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  raymond frantz

  oh i see, no I believe these accounts are not myths and Moses did write the book of Genesis, Idon't believe ancient people were just idiots making stuff up and you will find this whole discreting of ancient books and accounts is a later invention.If everything is a fairytale there is hardly any point to any of this.
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  Diogenesister

  But Raymond there's a description of Moses' death. Therefore, how could he have written it?

  Also, confusing languages is rather ridiculous when you realise how quickly two people with different languages can learn to communicate and speak each others languages when they have to.

  Day one....point to stone:

  Bob: cobwoddy V Trevor: Dicksloppy.

  Point to mortar:

  Bob: pukewhistle V Trevor: oinkworth.

  Point to hammer:

  Bob: humpants V Trevor: Dingbo

  You get the idea. It's not hard. A fairly rudimentary intelligence could bust that little scam
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  TonusOH

  Genesis 11:6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.

  God, after wiping out almost all life because humanity had become so cruel and brutal to one another, now takes action to prevent humanity from coming together and reaching its full potential. Clearly, humanity was not a threat to God, so this was done entirely out of spite and to ensure more suffering over time.

  Tell me again about free will.